Transcript courtesy of Zhang Hui
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDVD3_ewQ4
… the Spaceship Institute, we’ll be talking with Mr. Keshe, who will be describing to us some of the things that we were wondering about, about the universe, and trying to talk to us in terms of, the way children might understand. And today we have a special guest, Hector, a kid from Mexico, and we’ll be interacting with him a bit, and hopefully, we’ll try to talk a bit today about what kids, continue about the theme of what kids might do in space; what games would they play, what sort of activities might be interesting for kids in space. OK, let’s carry on, we are going to talk with, we’re going to hear from Keyvan Davani first and he’ll have a comment before we go on to Mr. Keshe. Keyvan, are you there?
Hello, good evening Mr. Keshe and all of you, recently I saw a documentary called “Alphabet”, and it shows in a very good way how this educational system that we have been having, systematically destroys, you know, the intellect creativity, and, well, may I say, the spirituality of children, even though, you know, 90, all children or highly talented people, so, I think the purpose of, you know, games, since Rick brought it up here as a main issue, it’s for me to learn from one another, and learn, you know, empathy, spirituality, and not, you know, counting the death toll, you know, how many people, or whatever, you destroy, or whatever things you destroy or kill; is there, can you maybe elaborate on that, Mr. Keshe, together with our new guest from Mexico, he might have some questions.
Can you explain exactly what you want to talk about? Can you be more precise?
Sure, sure. The thing is, we are living in a world where, you know, empathy with one another is, and learning from one another is not really the focus, of this system, of this educational system, where all sorts of fun, pleasure, entertainment, or learning processes are taking place; is there any way how we can develop, as a civilization, with the tool of games to learn, you know, more, to have more peace within these children, and within, and learn from one another, with games and toys? I think that’s the direction I want to go.
I think one of the most important points at the moment is that anarchy has taken over the state of life, in every aspect. In so many ways, we, we have forgotten how to be human, even us adults, we fail ourselves frequently, because, we do not see ourselves in a position to be able to handle what has been put in front of us in the life. Children get bullied, children get pushed around, and the child who has any empathy is pushed to the bottom of the ranking of life. Can we make children have empathy, can we make children be conscious of the feeling of the others, it’s literally, I think, it’s going to the point of non-existence. The world as we see it, the more we go towards what I call ‘western civilization’, is becoming more space for destruction, for competitiveness to destroy. I watch my own children and I see how, even though been taught how to live, in this world it’s so much that they forget about the humanity. I see children around us the same. I think, in so many ways, parents are too busy to be able to interact with their own children, to teach them the values of life, especially in the western world and upcoming turbulent nations to be industrialized, to be destroyed. One of the positive points which I see with the Keshe Foundation, our research and the materials and the technologies, which we are putting out, and in the coming days, you have seen some units we’ve put out, and more and more of these things are getting released, will be released, we will see if we can take the pressures of the social structure, and that we can allow parents to have time to teach their children the ethos of life. At the moment, the rat race is just to be able to have food on the table, maybe a light on the ceiling, and maybe, if you are lucky, moving color board what we call television; that we can spend our time in front of it to see what we have to do to get more of. They advertise more expensive things, new toys, new gadgets, and our race in life has some butch gadgets we don’t have and which toys we want to have, us children. In space, these things will have no value. As for fact, we know, in the space, all these rat races of human races will be over. Yeah. We will, in the coming, beginning of the next year, develop new games, new toys for children, according to Keshe Foundation technologies. In the next three weeks, something like three or four new products from the Foundation for the first time will be mass-produced and be made, at the prices that every man on this planet can afford. I can assure you, then, when you can have small amounts of energies to produce to have light without doing anything, when you have the material that you can make systems to be able to be usable by children and by adults, where you don’t have to work, the parents don’t have to work 10 hours extra a month, 20 hours extra a month just to pay the electricity bill, then that takes the pressure from the families. When the parents don’t have to pay for water, and they can have clean water, which is one of the first units coming out before Christmas, as a gift from Keshe foundation to humanity, then you find children, parents will have more time in the coming year, to be able to interact, and the parents to teach the children how, or have time to be with the children, how to be humane. As I said, in the space, there are no wars. In space, and when you are in the, in the, whatever you call it, spaceship or the craft of which you travel across this universe, there is no need for war because you have whatever you need, and you can have whatever you want. And then you understand that there is no need for all these situations we see with people. Children are victims of parents’ doing at the moment. What does this mean? It means parents, we are getting busier and busier, so we don’t have time to spend with our children. Then, what the child does? Child needs to find something to keep him busy. Video games, which, the only thing they do is to destroy and destruction, being depressed in the school to be bullied, because of they are depressed, and now it’s become what I call ‘gang depression’. What it means; three or four kids, who have come from the lowest classes of the society, get together to bully the others that they can confirm they exist because in their own society, they don’t exist. You find bullies in the school, where children in the house get battered, so they bring the same thing into the house, into the school. So now, the children who come from a good family, now become victims of these people. Where is the empathy? And now, if you tell the children which you are abusing, or what we call bullying, now the child which was victim becomes double victim, because now they have something to do against them, you talk to my child. The ethos of teaching at this moment, on this planet, especially in the Western world, has gone to the wall. Teachers have no say how to teach ethics, and the children do whatever they like, because you cannot talk to my child. So why do you send your child to school? If you, as a parent, have never taught your child what to do, and since you pay the teacher who does it, to do it for you, and then why you say, ‘you have no say to teach my child’? The whole structure will change in coming time, we see it. We, the Keshe Foundation, is going into the depth of teaching the universal language, the universal teaching, to the man on Earth. What does this mean? This means every child is equal irrespective of position, anywhere on this planet. Education is a god-given right. And the reason the child cannot have because the parents don’t have the money to pay for it, or the student, the child has not access to, because the school is not there. In Africa, for example, you have to be 12 years old, or weigh 15 pounds, something in that region, to get your child to school a year; they cannot afford it, they have to borrow and beg to be able to put a child in the school. Keshe Foundation, as what we call the Institute, will open up in the coming, early next year, I have seen the documents for it. Hopefully, they can put it up before the end of the month. We teach everything freely to the children across the world. Live program, live teachings. We are raising financial position that we can start teaching from early next year freely across the world, through the systems we are developing ourselves which do not cost much, and the families and the children who don’t have the money to have the light in the house, we give the systems freely to them. We... You see, one of the, one of the problems, sorry about that, one of the problems at the moment with the teaching, we see it, is obsolete physics, chemistry, biology, which has to be done to fill in the books. Has no relevance. So, we start the plasma teaching; we will set up, it’s just the matter of a few weeks, it’s just, we are financially positioning ourselves to be able to deliver this. What it means, we will provide every technical meaning within the reach of the Keshe Foundation through delivery of the free energy system for the families; which means, in Africa, the process will be that every household, within coming times, will receive a unit which absorbs CO2. Freely, if they can’t afford it in Africa, freely it will be given to them by the Foundation. When you have the CO2, and then at the same time we provide back to it, the new energy systems; I had today from the developers, they have improved the energy production by 300% since yesterday. Because they are getting to know how to do it better. So, now, in being able to have the CO2 kit, you have free energy. And in being able to have the free energy, you can create conditions to have clean water. Then you can allow the children to be supplied energy, food, directly through the water. So, we are going back to the essence of no killing; you don’t need to kill an animal to receive what you need to survive and enjoy the life. And then, with being able to take children out of hunger, and lack of energy, then, in the process we start teaching our way, the new way. You don’t need to read about the history of man 2000 years ago, how they killed each other, and how, who was the emperor and who was the conqueror. What you need to know is how to be detached from wars, and being able to read and write in accordance to one basic language, that’s the language of science from the initial basic point. This is, this is part of the roadmap of Keshe Foundation for 2015. At the same time, as you are on the Livestream, you can see, we have few centimeters left to land, and hopefully before the end of this program, by early tomorrow morning, as we say, the units will land. What we are going to do, we lift it further higher, and then we allow it to land again, which means it’s not coincidental. And then, Armen has already set the scene, you don’t, you see a little grey stand in the background, the new system will go up on that, it’s already on it, if you can see it, it’s the motor on the vertical position, on the horizontal line, to be able to see how we can dictate the position of lift. And if it succeeds before we break for the holidays, we’ll carry on, we’ll show it to you. So, children, always remember, if you say ‘what’s happened, what do you remember’, if we say, ‘we remember when we landed on the Moon’. Everybody remembers the first landing with Apollo. Now, without burning any fuel on Earth, we land. And we are going to repeat it that it is 100% confirmed, we showed it past week, we descended by about 18 centimeters, now we reset our system, and in past, if you see the blue line on Livestream, that is at the moment, about an hour ago, we have come down by 2 centimeters, hopefully by tonight or tomorrow morning, we’ll land. This is the significant move in the history of man. We teach every child how to be. To see, now, for example, to go from, let’s say, from Freetown, or if you go from Banjul in Gambia, if you want to come to Europe, or to America, or to anywhere else, to see how the world is, you have to save a lot of money for air tickets, because the fuel has to be paid for. Because we made the fuel that expensive, that the rich stay rich and the poor stays poor and, what you call, mishandling, and the society carries on. With a system like this, the cost to come to Washington, to London, and to interact with other children, to learn, to be part of the world community, will be less than 10 cents, because we are not burning any fuel. We are not destroying any environment. The changes in 2015 through what we have now put out, it will be so radical that a lot of people cannot even imagine what is to come. The biggest problem is not to take off, this is what I was telling to the Knowledge Seekers today; the biggest problem is to understand the landing. What’s the use to stay in the air when you cannot land where you want to land? We are understanding, we are trying to understand the process of the landing using the technology. So, in the new year, we’ll go to the next phase of take off, landing, and the rest. We will show new systems maybe even tomorrow which people think this technology is far behind, where the fore frontiers of this technology will be available to see. So, we have deliberately now, Armen and Marko have set the reactor that you can see, it’s still too far, we still, don’t see the leg when it lands, there’s still a shadow on it but we’ll sort it out later on. So, still too far, it’s going to be on the leg, when it lands you can see it; I’m talking to Marko and Armen. We don’t need it, you can put it on the floor, put it just that we can see when it touches the ground. It’s there, just put it right, turn the camera and put it on the floor; that when it lands we see the landing. Come on Armen. Every child wants to land. So, you see how correct (it) is: you watch for the first time, science when is having, in the lab, live. The people like Armen and Marko, and other people, like Doctor Eliya, and others around the world, are paving the road of their own time to make sure the children of the next generation and the present generation will have a better life than we had, and we’ve seen. You will see them, if you go on the Livestream, you see them, they are changing it live; we are going so close to show the landing that is not coincidental. It is vital, it is absolutely important because once this happens, and we are going to repeat it again for the second time, this means man is free of the shackles of the forces of this planet, the gravitational and magnetic field. What this means is that we can land directly, we can take off directly, without burning any fuel. The minute this system, the legs of this system touch the ground, yeah, yeah, yeah, the minute this system lands, you see touching the ground, the man history of past thousands of years is finished. We copied the birds, we made the airplanes. Now this is a universal system, and when it lands, it means borders, nationalities, races and creeds have come to an end because now we’ll become all one, and we can go anywhere we like and we can land anywhere we like. And this is the change for the youngsters, for the youth and for what we call ‘the children’, that’s why I said, ‘children program’. And it’s beautiful to see this, during the children program, because this will touch the life of every child on this planet, in the coming weeks you will see the toys which will bring this to you. If you are interested in toys, and how you can enjoy, I do not think many children will go out and play with the computers and iPads anymore in the coming years, when he can float, when he can be on a bicycle without wheels, you see how far, we are less than a centimeter away from landing, the camera has been placed in that way that you can see it. You can, do, do not hover, you fly, because we don’t create any magnetic fields that create levitation. This is positioning, the system gradually is finding its position in respect to the ground. And it will land. This is, this is one of the most beautiful things for you children, you can, what you saw as most expensive toys you could dream, by having the little GANS which you bargained, you get the free unit in Africa as the CO2 kit, you put it in the ping-pong ball, and you can start it, then, you have your own airborne surf board. You found the way you can travel along very simply because this system produces very little energy on the background as well, if you are floating 1 or 2 or 10 centimeters from the ground, and you have a little motor hairdryer in the back, you can go anywhere. This is amazing system what is coming and what will be available to man.
Mr. Keshe, just one short question, can I just interrupt you?
Yes.
Remember you mentioned once that within the Earth’s atmosphere you could go even up, because it wouldn’t, it would catapult you probably out of this atmosphere if you go beyond 40.000, whatever, mach, or whatever that is, but, beyond that Earth’s atmosphere it could go beyond?
We can go with the speed of light even in this atmosphere, but...
Really? Oh, OK.
But, yeah, but the thing is, we have a horizon, horizon on Earth is limited to around 20, 30 kilometers and less; horizon means being able to see the end, one end, where the curvature of the Earth will take the sight away, you can see it on the seas, on the oceans. So, the speed limitation is a man’s thinking, but you can go right through the surface of the Earth, there’s no problem, you can go thousands of times faster than the speed of light. These things, these restrictions, which were put by the scientists who did not understand the true meaning of universal forces, was because of their own limitation, of their own mind and thinking. And I always say, you know, sorry about that, you know, in the 18th century, 19th century, sorry, when the cars came out, they said ‘if you go faster than 25 miles, your eyes will pop out and your ears will bleed’, and they have put the same restriction, by the ones who never understood that the speed of light is the maximum speed. You see now, Armen and Marko are setting that they show the landing time. This system, when it lands, it has significance, significant implications for the mankind. Children will be the first beneficiaries. Can you imagine, you’ll be sitting on this box and you are floating? You can play on it, you don’t have any weight limitation, we can put as much weight as you like on this system, because it doesn’t carry any energy, it finds its position, as long as you are within the system parameters. So, in next few minutes, hopefully, I hope we can be present when it comes to landing on one side you see this landing because it’s slightly tipped, Marko is trying to find the time to show, it’s 7:40 in the evening on the 10th of December, 2014, that you all can see the time when this thing lands, when it touches the ground. It’s an amazing position, you see the tip, the bottom of the blue line, that’s where we started, about an hour ago, an hour and a half ago, Armen is here with me, and you can see the top tip of the pen that it shows where it is now, we come now by about 2, 3 centimeters, we’ve got about a centimeter left to touchdown.
You know, Mr. Keshe, this should be all over the news, actually, this should be prime time news, but this shows how the media is totally controlled...
Yeah, the thing is, we know FOX, which is the main news carrier world-wide, has been instructed by royal families and other people around the world, not to broadcast anything to do with Keshe Foundation. We know this, they have told us. As you know, a number of world-famous anchor news, anchors are Iranians. And they have told us, ‘we cannot even talk about your technology, Mr. Keshe’. They’ve been told they cannot do so. If somebody gets shot, you get a text ‘Somebody got killed.’ You know, on my iPhone I get only one news and it all comes from BBC ‘Such and such a guy bombed… This guy killed…’ Yes, in the past 4 days I received 4 texts from BBC and it’s who was killed and how he was killed and how many people killed. And I go on the Japanese television, there is no such news, because by killing they are not giving the news, they are telling, ‘If you don’t do what we say, this is what we are going to do with you.’ So, in so many ways, when this system lands, there is no border anymore, because as you can come down, you can go up.
Mr. Keshe, what is the RPM now of the cores in question?
Pardon?
What is the RPM of the cores right now?
2.000. We haven’t touched anything. Everything has been kept at about 2.000 RPM, which is ‘revolution per minute’ for the children, if they don’t understand. This is a perfect picture, thank you very much. It’s absolutely gorgeous, it shows the time of landing. But it’s a bit lump-sided, did you see it? One leg is up, it’s like a little dog, but it’s perfect. No, no, the unit has been hung that way. It’s absolutely perfect. So, we…
Has it been… On weight… Sorry.
Pardon?
… weight or is that what the forces will try to do, they will try to follow, the fields will try to do, sorry, they will try to find a way to balance and inner them rotating.
You see, what happened, you’ve got to understand the principle. I’ve been told you keep on telling people you don’t understand. I’ve been accused of, this means we are stupid. What, when I mean, when I say the word you don’t understand, means it needs a lot of thinking to understand. But, it’s a terminology, I’ve got used to it for years and it confuses a lot of people, but at the same time I keep on using it. So, we are not the stupid, we don’t understand. But, what happens, actually, is what, I was explaining this to Armen and Eliya yesterday. You see 4 little brass balls. You don’t see them, but they are rotating at about 2.000 revolutions per minute. What is happening in this process? In these little balls which are about 2 cm diameter, we have put plasmas, floating plasmas, what we call GANS, and in rotating them at this speed, these plasmas, they are like Sun, but in each container, in each ball, in each, what we call, core, there are millions of these little plasmas, atomic plasmas. Each plasma is like a Sun. And what does the Sun do? Sun continuously radiates light out, energy out. And what happens? The energy gets spread across the solar system. Part of it becomes the heat we receive, part of it goes somewhere else, it becomes different things. In this core, in these 4 cores, the same thing is happening, but the Suns are these little balls, and inside these little balls, the brass balls, there are millions of little Suns, and they are all radiating fields out, and part of these fields pass the wall of these cores, which is what you see, and then when they come out, because of the spin and rotation in the core, they get absorbed and interact between each other and they get trapped in the center of the system between the 4 cores. So, now, what we are doing, we are putting all the bits, what comes out like little pebbles from each core into this central core, which is in the air, has no containment, because they are all connected magnetically, and it’s like me putting little pebbles in your pocket. First pebble you don’t feel, but if I put 100, 200 pebbles, the jacket gets heavy, it pulls you down, and then if I put more pebbles, the jacket comes off your back. So, what happens, now, instead of pebbles we are putting plasmatic magnetic fields, little, little plasmas getting added, and then the mass of the plasma in the center you don’t see increases…
Sorry, Mr. Keshe, we are getting some more sound…
The sound is not proper. Is it better now? Are we better? Is it better now? OK. So, what happens is that these little, instead of pebbles, now we are putting plasmas into this center of these cores, and they’re getting heavier and they’re getting more powerful and interact with the planet, so it’s getting pulled in, they’re increasing the mass. So, that’s why the system is coming down. The system weighs about 11.5 kg totally, so we are not moving a few grams, it’s about 11.1 or 11.2 kg, 11.5 kg, something in that region, with the magnetic shield, you see a cover on the top. This cover is about 13 kg, 13.5 kg, if I can remember, we did. Right about 12, 13 kg. So, we are not moving a few, it’s a weight of a child, this is a weight of a child, 4-5 year old child, 3-4 year old child, which is hovering. Imagine if you put a 3 or 4-year-old child on a, what we call, a surf like this, then it floats and then it can play around the house. This is the change which is coming in and that’s how we increase the weight. So, but when you increase the weight in these systems, it becomes irrelevant because the field which is covered by the system, it can become 200 kg, 10, a 1.000 kg, you still keep the same position, as long as you are within the sphere of the fields. So, this is what the future holds. This is what, when you want to go shopping, you don’t take the car, and you don’t have to go look for a petrol station, because once you’ve made your system, these little cores will last for thousands of years. The Sun lasts for millions and billions of years, so this is the same process, smaller size. No child in the future will live in the cold because parents don’t have money to pay, because now the energy has become totally free and by this landing we show further. And, no child, as I said before, needs to go to sleep hungry, because all you need to do, once you land it, you don’t want to land all the time, but your reactors run and they create energy. If you can convert the energy into heat or condensation, you have free clean water from the atmosphere. At the end, you put the energy which is in these cores in the center which landed into the water. It’s food. What you do when you eat food? You take energy from the apple, from bread. Now, parents don’t have the money to pay for the food. The water is your food, because it gives you, and you don’t feel hungry. The hunger is not there, the lack of energy is not there. This landing will change a lot of things for mankind, and especially for the children in the coming months and years. One of the projects and one of the principles we have agreed, because now the Keshe Foundation is 50 shares, 50% shareholder in the company of manufacturing, every cent we make from sales of the product, which is the share of the Foundation, goes back to give units to the humanity, irrespective of color, race, and religion. Now we see how many people suddenly become the supporters of Keshe Foundation, because they want a unit to be able to have their free energy, they want a unit to be able to have clean water, and in a simple way we change the ethos of humanity; unconditional supply and resources. And 2015 will be the beginning of it. Actually, by the end of this year, within next two weeks, the first units freely given to the world population will go out from the Foundation. If you are a child from Mexico, as you are on the line, and you know poor children in your country, you can start the Keshe Foundation for children that the poor children can have the systems and then the energy system comes with it, and the process for other things which is on the way. We’ll change the life of every child on this planet in the coming years. Not by promises, because we are not politicians, but by what the rich buys to benefit by it, which through it we benefit their bonds we cannot afford, so the society will become equal. This is a change, it’s a beautiful change for the youngsters.
I was wondering what Hector might think about that and some of those comments, and I was wondering if he had any comments of his own about that idea and any questions or anything else he’d like to add to the conversation. Perhaps we could hear from Hector.
Hi, hi. So, first, I just wanted to get clear: Is this flying or something?
Yes, it’s not flying, it’s positioning. Fly, when you are with the air disposition. Airplane flies because it, what do you call it, it moves and changes the position of the air. A bird flies. A universal system positions itself. You create fields which position it. If it’s, in the simplest way, you get 2 magnets in your hand and put the 2 sides which are opposite to each other, you see they come together, and if you put the 2 sides which are similar, you find that they find a distance between each other, you can’t put them together. This is exactly what is happening with this system. It’s creating a field which creates a position in respect to the Earth’s magnetic field and gravitational field.
All right. So, yeah, I was at, hm, I think, like, I’ve just been going for these, like, my whole life, I, as, yeah, it’s very interesting, I think it’s great that you are doing that and, yeah, I think that could really make a radical change on things. Like, not only on the scientific things, but also in practical life to all people who are made even richer or poorer, or whatever, but that, as, I don’t know, I don’t remember if it was Rick or Armen, who said that we are evolving, so I think this is really a big step for the both, of the humanity, and congratulations, really, for making all this.
Maybe, maybe it’s the time that we look for the Keshe Foundation for youth around the world, that we distribute the units to the youth, which right then has no financial position. This is one of the things I will set up in the road map of 2015, is that we will try not to supply units to charities or people who are influenced by who will get the units, but the units go directly to the children, because they have to be the beneficiaries of it. It’s them who suffer more than the adults. Because what we’ve seen with the other programs around the world, when things become freely available, adults tend to abuse it very quickly while children tend to be more fair, to be more correct in the distribution of wealth, in distribution of science and technology. So, one of the things which we will encourage in 2015 is the Keshe Foundation youth group, and we try to, and one of the ways we’ll do, we give priority to them, if they can send, that there is such a child, they need such a thing, that the CO2 kit, like in different parts of the world, especially for clean water with also some infections, can be used by the children, given to the youth, to start looking after the, changing the ethos from the root, from the beginning. We have seen the abuse, for example, when the rice is given to charity organizations to distribute, it’s become money for them, and then their own family has had it first, and the real, poor people, the ones who need it they have to queue up to get a little, if any. This way we try to change the position. At the Keshe Foundation, because it’s a science for the future, as a technology for the future, we’ll work through the teenagers. For example, you can start the system in, process in Mexico. Speak to the Mexico, what do you call it, Mexican Keshe Foundation and become part of changing the roots in your own structure, in your own country. The problem at the moment is, it’s not another week, 10 days. When we’ll announce that we have, let’s say, 1.000 or 2.000 or 10.000 free units to be given to poor families that they can start benefiting by it, mainly in the 3rd World nations, initially for cleaning up their water, till the energy units are marketed, then you will see how people will change.
Sorry, in…
Mostly it will go that way.
How does this work for the water?
For?
Like they clean the water or?
You just, the CO2 which you absorb from the air, you just add 1 or 2 drops into the water, contaminated water, and most of the material is absorbed to it and it sinks to the bottom, and the water on top becomes totally drinkable. This has been shown by the University in C’ert du Lion (sp) to be correct and tomorrow, hopefully, in the workshops we’ll announce new position in respect to Keshe Foundation to, for cleaning up of world-wide programs. Tomorrow morning, if you listen to the Keshe Foundation Thursday talks, most probably I will not be here. Marko will start the process till I arrive, till I join in, and we will announce in time how the things are changed. So, you don’t need to have, you receive a kit, all you need to do is to put a half a liter of salt water into it, the process starts. Then you can co-harvest the material you absorbed. The container, everything, comes with it, and then you use the material to add to the drinking water. Any contaminated water, most of it, should be able to be cleaned up. So, we give you the system free. It’s totally free to the 3rd World nations, the children who cannot afford it, the families who don’t have the money to, even, 2 dollars is a salary of maybe a week of a father for a family of 2, 3. But, now, instead of him not being able to give clean water and even energy to his children to be able to live… A lot of children die in the 3rd World nations due to contaminated water. We know for a fact, we’ll release some more data in the coming months that even mosquito, which is malaria larva, when it’s attached to this material will most probably change characteristics. So… ah, it keeps on moving… Oh, no, we have put… Is it better now? OK, now, I don’t like to do this, but I have to do it this way. I look like a Mickey Mouse with 2 headphones, because we record everything here, as well. So, what happens is that you will be able to have the water. I have asked our colleagues, the manufacturing side, that, what we call, water decontamination units to be released as fast as possible, more or less, at the same time as CO2 kits, and we… So, you, a child doesn’t need to die because of contaminated water with diarrhea and the rest. And, then, with a small amount of electricity, which is produced and now we see it, the units will be there. In fact, what we are doing, the basis of the oasis system, is getting a structure to be released early next year. Clean water, enough light, to be able to live, and hopefully by the end of the year we can provide the system which provides shelter too, but the shelter will come in the longer process. But, more or less, in, after New Year, we are targeting for at least one new product which can change the humanity, every month or at least every week or so. And all of it will be… The rich will pay the full amount. We have brought the new system in. There is a minimum purchase for a unit, and then there is a minimum donation. What it means, you can donate minimum for one unit, and then, or you can pay for one unit, if you just want to have the unit. And, whatever is collected either way, will go back 50% with, at least, the other half depends on the manufacturers, what they want to do with their profit, will go back to the 3rd World nations. Not the 3rd World nations, even in Western Europe, some 20% of children go hungry to bed, because the parents cannot afford it. So, we try to cover all aspects in every direction. The changes are huge and now we start, now we have a say how we are going to change. The medical units, very, very, the medical units can release pain, will be released in the next 2 weeks maximum, it’s already gone into the process of production, cutting and the rest. Maybe by the first week of January it will be on the market, from the Keshe Foundation. So, we go for every aspect to release the technology world-wide in the masses, and the ones who can’t afford it, we support it. Then, the next one will be toys. We are actually less than a centimeter to land. Any other question?
Yeah, I was just typing that in the Livestream chat there, because I’ve been watching it while we’ve been discussing this, and you can definitely see that it’s going down further than it was there on forty.
Yes. It is landing, the eagle, it’s not the eagle, but the thing is, the unit is literally landing, it’s a matter of minutes.
Why don’t you call it the dove instead of the eagle?
It’s a dove of peace, but I hope the people will understand. But… You have to see, I think the back leg is more or less touching, I think the back leg is more or less touching, I can see, huh? I don’t know why we can’t see.
Looks like the broadcast ended. Let me start.
The broadcast ended.
It will come back on. Yeah. It’s just…
Oh, it’s just, coming back on again.
Yeah.
It’s loading. The wires are blocking to see the back wheels to be there. It will be done. Before the end of the night, we will see the full landing. And this is historical in a way that is now it can, it will be there. Tomorrow morning we will have a, what do you call it, a landed bird. Marko is shaking his head. You should see, we haven’t shown the unit which Marko has made ready. Oh, you are going to be shocked what, if you see that one. Totally scientific. You could not even imagine what is sitting in the lab, in the other lab on the other side. We’ll try to put the Livestream on it tomorrow. It is…
Well, it will be quite a sight for the workshop.
It is from, what do you call it, a space world. He is laughing. He spent a lot of time making this in the past 2 weeks, I think the children will enjoy this.
Sorry, was that Armen or Marko that is doing that?
Marko. It’s, Armen is laughing, but…
OK, I guess I was just wondering.
It’s Marko’s system, he built a system, very, very precise system, and we turned on Friday night before we leave, and on Saturday it was, already started showing the sign of, what we call, magnetic gravitational field shake, and now we have put it with a crazy idea, and Marko has done it today, yesterday and today, actually today, and now it is, what we said, the fish tank is ready. I think it will be nice for the children to see. Pardon?
The building of it just gets simpler, doesn’t it?
It’s become very simple. You see, it was the progress. I always say, every time they’ve stopped us to develop we became better in developing. The more they stopped us, the more they blocked us, to stop the technology to come out, the more technology became accessible and easier. Now, I think the whole…
Sorry…
2 dollars, 5 dollars? Yeah, it’s not even. How much is the motor? It’s a toy. Pardon?
Can you say…?
The new system which Marko has made… Hello? Can you hear us? Yeah. The unit which Marko has made is a space unit, what we call a star formation unit, and it cost less than 10 dollars, if that. I think, if you mass produce it in China, it will be about 2 dollars. And it’s like a toy for a child. It is, it’s been put in a place to see how it goes, and we will see, the game will play. Actually, it has a huge scientific application and it will be a warning… what do you call it, for the children. If you like to go submarining, you will enjoy this, huh, because you can get into the ball and go and see whatever you like. It is a fantastic system. Can we have a look? Can we show it to the children? It’s a children’s program. Can you take the camera across to the other lab? Maybe we can show it. Is there any way we can show it? Yeah, no, we are very, I admire, but our communication system…. Let’s… We are going to… Marko is trying to… The camera is in the drawer. I think it will be fantastic for children to see this. It’s a huge revolution and evolution in technology for children. You have to see it, it’s like things from, what do you call it?, Back to the Future, no, it’s Back to the Future. It is absolutely beautiful what is, how it’s been made, and up to now, we (have) always had a problem with the gravity. Now we have a beautiful condition in submerging, so it’s a pretest before submerging, and if it could, comes OK, because it showed the past 4 days, it was hanging here, it was showing that it can do, then you will see this one. It’s absolutely… It’s beautiful the way it’s done, and it’s a submarine system, it’s a new submarine system which can take as many people as you like and it costs less than 20 dollars with the housing, yeah? It is, Marko has gone to take a picture and see if he can upload it, you can see it. It’s in a fish tank, as I call it. In a fish tank. Any other question till we get the pictures? Pardon? And, yeah, he says there are fishes around Armen’s head.
Ha. Ha. Mr. Keshe, can you tell us the…?
We are still using CO2?
Could you just say that line again? It’s CO2…
It isn’t CO2, it’s CO2 GANS and it is, actually, made out of Christmas balls, the balls you hang on a Christmas tree, which cost about, I don’t know, 5 cents each, if that, filled in with a GANS. It’s put in a ball which comes from the game units. If you are a child and you go to these machines, where there is a toy inside it, so the ball is that which cost nothing, and then it’s just the motor. Armen, where are we going to… This is it. Marko has got it, we are going to see if we can show it to you on a chip. The chip has arrived. OK, it’s there. Let us load it. While we are doing it, we show you.
At the time, I was wondering if Hector had any more questions or anything he’d like to say towards the end of the workshop here. We are up to about an hour now. We don’t usually go too much longer in the workshop for…
I think this is worth it, just wait.
Yeah, definitely.
This is absolutely worth it to see. This is a piece of art.
And, as I said, plasma is artistic, and humanity is, maybe as artistic.
That’s 2013 folder. No, it’s not that one. It’s the other one. Go back. Go look at the private disk. I know. No.
Sorry…
We are… Go by date. No. They’ll be here? No. We are trying to find this picture, we are already looking into the disk.
All right.
That, that was, yeah, carry on.
Oh, if you wanted, like, to see a picture…
OK, just, we are there.
No, it’s OK, I will wait to see the picture. I don’t, yes, thanks.
Still descending on the star formation…
On the date modified folder, maybe, we’ll see. It’s the 10th of December, yeah, today. There it is. But it’s 2 kb. Let me see if it opens up. No. And the other one? No? Are you sure you took a picture? OK, we’ll see. Go back. Let’s see if we can get it. We are trying to get this picture out for you, if we can. No, 10, 12, here, there, no. You need the… um… No, it’s not it, maybe it’s the wrong date, we don’t know. Modify by date. Date modified. There it is. It was sitting at the bottom. Ah, there it is. OK, how are we going to load it up? Have you got…? We don’t like to screen share because they can break, they can come into the computer. Just give us time. Let’s try. OK, we are opening…
Just copy it to your computer, to the desktop, and drag it into the conversation, and then we are going to post on Skype.
Ah, OK, we’ll do it that way. Let’s see where we… Please, drag it directly, go in it and drag it. Where was it? Which one was it? That one. Are you sure? Have you received it?
Yeah, it’s coming through.
It’s coming through. We got the see if it’s the right one… We don’t see it. Can you go…? OK, let us see, we just want, let’s see on the Livestream, if we can see it. No, on the Livestream. That’s the Livestream, yeah. OK.
We’re still waiting on the Skype. It’s coming now.
In the meantime, is there anything else we can talk about while it’s downloading?
Yeah. What about the video you took of it? It’s a big folder, that. What’s this one? What’s the other one?
OK, I’ve got the picture.
You see a bowl?
Just a second here.
Yeah, I got it, thank you.
Yup.
Got it.
Can you put it on the Livestream that we see if it’s the right one?
It’s a bowl with balls in it and a cup.
Yup. OK, if you put it on Livestream, we’ll have a look.
Yeah, it’s out there now.
… on Livestream… can we see it? Yeah. OK, yeah, can we load this up?
With screen sharing, maybe.
Yeah, put the screen share. Can we go to screen share? What we are going to do, Rick, if you can keep this for tomorrow, we’ll show it tomorrow, we’ll share the screen with it and we’ll see what happens. Go ahead. We are going to share the screen with you. OK, wait. Wait, open the camera, share the screen. Now we start to have a look. It’s amazing. Can you?…Have you received it?
Just coming through now. Just let me get it bigger, so I can get a good picture. Oh, I can’t do it bigger, OK, I’ll have to do it differently. I’m just getting it set up. Yeah. I am just getting now, coming through on the Livestream, it should be arriving shortly. Got your screen, trying to get it narrowed down a little bit, there we go. OK.
Can we see the Livestream?
Yeah, looks like a fishing bobber. Is that what it is?
No, not here…
OK, there is somebody that built a reactor using fishing bobbers, so it did look like that.
No. Live stream.
Oh, yeah, but we cannot, you know, because when we change, they see the same as we see, so we cannot…
I see it. If you want…
Are you down setting on the video…?
If you are on Livestream, they will see Livestream. Now they see this.
Oh, do they? Oh, I didn’t, sorry about that.
Yeah.
Which one are we going to see? This one? Yeah. So… that’s the screen share, huh? Yeah, that’s what they are seeing.
You’ve seen it?
Once again.
Yeah. I can see it there.
What happens, this system will create a gravitational magnetic field, because we’ve seen it, and what is going to do, we are going to put this one in a swimming pool here we have, where we have a special underground swimming pool, that it’s the back-up pool, so we allow it to submerge in the water, and then we see how it goes up and down, according to the plasma it’s created in the reactor. The total cost of this system is less than 10 dollars, if that, 5 dollars. This is independent of… the shape and the size of the material. There is actually a hard… what you see as a black disc at the bottom is a half a kilo weight disk to hold it in the position. So, we stop sharing screen…
Oh, that’s very interesting.
Yeah. So, this is what we said from early on in our programs, that to you it’s, what do you call, to a lot of children, this is, needed to be done, this test, because in the space everywhere it’s not solid land that you can land. Most of the planetary systems and other pieces in the universe are in liquid state, so we need to be able to submerge, and this is beginning of the, on the right way to do it. And, we’ll see how we submerge, we can control the submerging, we can control the positioning and we have a bunch of other scientists around the world who are joining us in developing these technologies further, in system control and measurement.
That’s an interesting idea you just brought up that I’ve forgotten entirely about, that most worlds might be liquid and that to explore them would require us to go under liquids. It may not be water, it may be ammonium or some other strange liquids that we’d have to have force fields around the craft to protect it and so on, and use the technology that you talk about.
Now, we see it in practice. We see on the Livestream, on the other channel, we are landing, and we see on this channel how we are, we show you the videos of how we are actually trying to submerge, so 2 sides of developments are going hand in hand with each other, which is very important for the work of an organization like us. You can see it, it’s literally millimeters away before landing. We have to come to an end with this broadcast, as we agreed. I think the back leg has already landed. Check.
Yeah. The back is.
It’s a wire or it has landed. Just shout it. The back leg has landed. Just check. Yeah, I think so, because it’s not in balance. It looks like the back right-hand leg has landed, so it’s actually very much historical in what we have achieved. And, you can see, it’s very much controlled landing. In so many ways, if you have achieved this, you see how controlled it is, that the whole structure will gradually land in one go.
Is it possible, Mr. Keshe, that this could try to go even further and…?
Yes, and we have to lift it up, because if you don’t lift the frame up, the frame will crush itself, the weight will push down and what… Is it landed?
One or two millimeters… if you push the…
One or two. Yeah, but put the wire. Did you put the?… There is a wire in front of it, when you look, there is a blue and white wire, because we don’t see it. Can you take the camera behind and show it, how far it is? You can move the camera back?
It’s attached to the computer, the cable is not…
Move the computer, we have the… That’ll be nice for them to see…
I don’t think that they will need to be here for a couple of minutes for that front leg to come down and touch the ground.
Marko says he can just push a piece of paper underneath of it. Show it. Go down and show it. It’s for children.
But four legs is considered a landing…
And, one leg is, still is. When you land, you go on one leg, you don’t land? We are now playing hopscotch, playing reality, what is there. I say, in a few, because I don’t see it, I see it as you do, but we don’t see pictures. Where are you? We don’t see you going there. Did you look from distance? No? Because we don’t see…
Yeah, yeah, I didn’t go.
Ah, you’ve got to go. Oh, there it is. Marko is in, he is, huh?, he is still there, we’ve got to see. The back leg is more or less coming to touch the ground. We see if he can take the camera. It’s a, that’s the front leg, yeah, it’s just a few millimeters off, just a few millimeters off. You can see it, it hasn’t landed yet, because with the wire in front of it, it looks as (if) it’s landing. As you see, just on the background, you see on the right-hand side this shiny ball, that’s the reactor no. 5, which is pulling the fields that the system has to interact with. It more or less interacts with the imaginary or what we call free plasma. No, we don’t see all the 4 legs, we need to see all the 4 legs. You’ve got to turn the camera. It needs, the camera needs to turn. We see the silver reactor. It’s been a long day for us, and we will see, it is, literally will land in the next few minutes, in the next half an hour, and it is amazing how we’ve achieved it, and it shows, it’s very much controlled system landing, and… Unfortunately, it’s not like NASA, the same man didn’t go on the Moon. We did go on, we did land, and it’s very nice to see how it will land in the end. It’s nice to show this to even the children’s program, that such a thing has been achieved. If you want to keep the Livestream for children go on, going, after we finish that they can see the landing, then we can, they can always have a look at it.
OK, we can do that.
It’s a matter of half an hour, 20 minutes, I think that we’ll see where the eagle landed. If somebody could register the time, it would be fantastic. But we have to lift it up. Otherwise, the frame will crash, the weight will crush the whole system down to the ground, and then it will start cracking and, what do you call it, disintegrating. And it’s taken a long time to build the system. What we are going to do, we are going to lift it up again a few centimeters and then allow it to land again. It’s just there.
I think it’s more like a homing pigeon than an eagle and, or a dove.
Ha. Ha.
So, the homing pigeon of peace. Ha. Ha.
Ha. Ha. You see, there is a, there are two reactors in the background, one on the ground floor, silverish, and one, if you look right through the frame, you see like a microphone in the background on the plastic surface. Once we land, that reactor will come into operation. What is interesting is that, if you’ve noticed, the fields have not changed in past 7 days. It’s more or less very much the same, very little has changed. So, it shows you do not take anything in from the environment to achieve this positioning. It’s very interesting position. I think we’ll end the broadcast or at least we say goodbye on the live, on the Skype. It was a very interesting, what do you call, children’s program, and they can see how their future will change.
OK. Thank you very much, Mr. Keshe. That was excellent.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you very much, indeed. We’ll leave the Livestream on and then we, most probably we’ll video to my… If anybody is watching, we don’t see it on the Livestream channel, just put the time of the landing when you see the first one and the others land or touch the ground.
OK, I am sure we can do that.
Yeah, sure.
Thank you very much indeed. Have a nice day. Bye, bye.
Thank you. Bye, Mr. Keshe.
Bye, bye for now. OK. Well, that’s not the end of the 10th Kids Knowledge Seekers Workshop, and we’ll carry on with the broadcast here and watch the Livestream. Just so people know, I’ll, let me see, I’ll zero in on the, no, I’ll type it out, the URL for the Livestream broadcast from the Spaceship Institute, so that people can click into it. Actually, we can’t put it in the chat, because it won’t show up. We can put it in maybe as a…
Yeah, are you just going to leave the Kids Workshop going, just on, you can hear the audio…
Yes. Right.
And, just the video going, and then we can come back on audio-wise, while, when it happens or something. So, if we do that, we should be able to do that. So, do you want to shut off the audio, and I’ll just stop the recording on this side for the audio?
OK, that sounds good. So, the audio will be off from now on, on the workshop, until otherwise notified, and we’ll continue watching the Spaceship Institute live channel, live from SSI with the landing of the homing pigeon 1.
That’s right. Ha. Ha.
Good job. Yes, OK. Stopping the audio. Thank you.
Alright. Thank you. Bye, bye.
Thanks both of you. Thank you, Hector, Erick…
Thanks very much. Sorry, may I just ask something else?
Sure. Yes.
It’s just, I’m sure…
We’re still on the Livestream, right? Is that what you want, you want to put it on the Livestream? Is that OK?
Sorry?
We’re on the Livestream still. Do you want to make it on Livestream? Is that OK?
Oh, I don’t know.
You just want to ask a question to us separately?
Sure.
OK.
I’ll turn off the audio on the Livestream then, alright.
OK.
… the audio back on here.
I think you should have recorded that, yeah. That would… Yeah. Now, he has to repeat himself.
No, I can repeat myself, that’s OK.
It’s always good to record…
Maybe Hector should ask the question again and we’ll just start from scratch again. It was pretty important.
OK.
...And we’ll just start from scratch again.
All right, so, from the beginning, or...?
From, ‘cause you asked of, so what is actually happening here, right?
Yeah.
They’re floating, right, you asked, right?
Yes, like a person who doesn’t really know anything about gravity or what is happening, like floating or flying, or...
Right, OK; so, let me try to answer you how I answered before and we’ll see if we get the same result.
First of all, for the folks at home, this is Vince that’s discussing it with Hector from Mexico. OK.
Yeah, we were just doing some conversations, I was watching here and Hector asked a good question, because like most people, with, when they see something like this, they don’t understand what’s happening, and to them it’s just something that’s moving on the screen that you can see.
Keep it all real simple so that kids can understand and even people like me.
I’ll try to explain it the same way that I did before. So, what, what we’re seeing is that the system has had a progression, that’s been a progression of the way that they’ve managed and put that system in the certain formations. If we go back on SSI Livestream, you’ll see that there was a central column, and the top reactor was in the different position, and they had a weight scale up and we’ve seen it go up and down in weight; it was pretty extraordinary just to be able to see go up and down in weight. So what they’ve done is they’ve changed the structure, the positioning of the top reactor so there is nothing in the center, nothing that we can see. And in that, they have also put the system on an elastic, and the elastic was, as, you can go back on the Livestreams, the elastic was stretched to a point where it wouldn’t stretch anymore, so they had to change that set-up as well. And now it’s already descending; now when we think about these reactors coming down and descending, we have to understand that we are looking at, like what the Wright brothers did. When the Wright brothers flew for the first time, they did not fly around the world after getting in the cockpit for the first time. They flew I think it was 170 feet. Right now, we are just looking at the systems coming down for a landing, and the, this landing is important because this is the first step, this is the first 170 feet that the Wright brothers did. And what it is, it’s trying to position itself. So, it’s positioning itself, and that could be inside the Earth and they don’t know. Wright brothers didn’t know how long they would fly either. So what we are going to be doing is we are going to, if you think about it as magnets, Rick, you had a set of magnets that would find its position, I think that was a while ago, but it was a set-up or certain formation of magnets, which would allow it to be attracted and then held in the position, away from the center magnet, and that’s what would happen to this system here, because it would find its position that would be abounds and not go any further, and not going any further away, but not touching. So, this could be in the center of the Earth or it could be 2 centimeters below the ground, we don’t know this information yet. And also what we have to understand is, because we are just dealing with the gravitational magnetic field, or the fields that are inside of the Earth, if we could do this on the Earth, then we could do this in any environment, because it’s only depending on the strength of the fields that you are creating inside of your formation, depending on the environment that you’re in. So if we are able to descend here on Earth, with adding or subtracting gravitational magnetic field strengths, then, we should be able to find a position in the atmosphere of the Earth, which is the gravitational magnetic field atmosphere, not just the atmosphere that we think of in terms of air. So, if that can be done anywhere on Earth, then with our position inside the Solar system would be the same thing, we could position ourselves within the Solar system using the Sun as the center instead of the Earth. And if we can position ourselves in the Solar system, we can position ourselves in the galaxy just by changing the strength of the gravitational magnetic field that we see in the center of the reactors, or we don’t see it; it’s invisible to our eyes, but it’s actually there.
So, may I ask, like, to make spaceships or something?
No, not really.
If we create an environment, OK, if we create different environments as in, let’s think about the Wright brothers aircraft, OK?
OK.
So, we had, it had a wing on top, a wing on bottom, the cockpit was open and it was extremely dangerous to fly it because there was no protection, OK? And so, right now, this is what we see: there is zero protection, it’s as basic as you can get, so, they don’t have any kind of protection. With, by adding the, you know, just like we did with airplanes, we added a cockpit and we added safety features, and today they have parachutes on these planes that will help you in safety aspect in case your engine quits and it’s falling out of the sky, it can’t fly anymore, there’s parachutes now, and there is other safety equipment on board the airplanes, and the jets, that we all fly that try to make it as safe as possible. And this is what we can do here: we can add systems or we can add formations to be able to create a safer environment, to be able to create environment that is, that it won’t allow us to be harmed, in terms of we think of, if you are in an airplane and you turn a corner really fast, you get the feel of the force of the formation, of the gravity, or inertia; or you are in a car, and you turn the wheel really fast for you’re going fast, you get the inertia of wanting to go sideways. If we create the fields that are necessary, or the strength that is necessary, in the center of the formation, then we become our own planet and we don’t feel the Earth’s spinning, we don’t get any inertia from the Earth’s spinning, we have no idea if we didn’t know that there was spinning that the Earth is spinning, right, because there are no physical signs of the Earth spinning, we don’t feel ourselves being pushed over if it hobbles even a little. So, we create the same type of fields inside the center of the starship formation as you see there, and those fields will become the point of inertia, as in if the fields, if you use the system and you are, let’s say, ascending at, let’s just say, 50 mph, and you make a right-hand turn, you are not going to feel any inertia inside because you’ve created that inertial point in the center. And it’s not the thing that’s turning sideways, right, you are not actually letting it turn, it’s positioning itself inside another environment.
OK, OK, OK.
Just like the Earth spins around the Sun, it’s positioning itself inside the environment of the Sun, so, we don’t feel that. Yeah, we are moving very fast.
Yes.
Right? So, that’s going to be the same thing as what will happen in the future with this formation or other formations.
So you are, how to say this in English, I’m sorry, emitting, emiting, emitando...
Yeah, emitting, yeah, that’s right.
OK, how does the Earth move, and the Sun, and, how does the, I mean, the world works, like, the ways they move and each other, and everything...
That’s right, but that’s the, we cannot work out this at the smaller scale too as in an atom, right, with an atom, it has protons and neutrons in the center, and that we say, and then it has electrons flying around the outside. If you lived on the electron, let’s say, you wouldn’t know that the electron is spinning around the proton at almost light speed.
All right, yes.
You wouldn’t know that because you’re in the electron, so, the environment isn’t moving, to the solid or the both, the environment is moving. Sorry, go ahead, Rick.
I’m good. No, just to be clear that, yeah, that you are in your own gravitational field in these crafts that they are to be flying through space, so that you’re not affected by other fields directly, and you can control your environment, you can have, you can sit in an easy chair and not be all strapped down, and, with belts and so on, because the environment is controlled 1G gravitational environment, the same as we are comfortable with on Earth; why would you want to make yourself uncomfortable unless you deliberately wanted to fly around a bit, and float, and that kind of thing, it costs little extra to do that, with your energy cost, but it can be done, if I was creating that atmosphere, that environment?
But see, I was asking myself, how do we know how to create the 1G environment, that has always been a question of mine, and I answered it myself; and that the environment is created because we are creating it in this environment.
OK.
OK. We were on Mars or on the Moon, and we performed the same tasks in a different way because it’s a different gravitational magnetic field that we’d be dealing with, then we would probably receive the gravitational constant of what that environment is.
It brings me to my idea of, once the reactors are conditioned by rotating with the GANS for a period of days, then why can’t one, and we have this dropping effect going on, as it lands, then it makes sense that the reactors are already conditioned to a certain point, why not turn the entire frame upside down so the reactors are all upside down compared to the way they are now, and it should provide the lift going counter to what they’ve been trained to exist in or move.
I think it’s a little bit different than that, I think it’s more to do...
It’s probably.
More to do with the, when you’re doing that, you are structuring the center plasma or the free plasma, with the angles of which you are rotating it at. OK, and he’s said before, that when you’re structuring the diamond formation, you can go through things, and I really believe that because we’ve seen it with the what we call UFOs or, they are not really UFOs anymore, are they, because we know they work; this is exactly how that they work. And with the free plasma; now, like I said before, if they are on in the different environment, their way of creating the environment to do with the free plasma, and they are lift in motion, will be a little bit different for them.
So, it’s like if this world is, I’m just going to say, little planet that has its own gravitation force, so, the Earth will be like the Sun, and these planets are, like, moving with the force of this gravitation, of the Sun, that would leave the Earth.
Yes, and, but the Sun is in the center and you don’t see it. OK? It’s an imaginary Sun, in the very center. And by positioning the top reactor, you can think of it as moving the Sun up and down, according to the plain of the planets. So, right now, we spin at the roughly, I’m going to say the equator of the Sun, where we spin right around the equator of the Sun.
OK.
Now, take the Sun and move it so that it’s, we’re spinning around the South Pole. OK? So, the Sun is above the equator. It’s going to change the formation of our solar system.
OK, OK, I got it better now.
OK, so, if we change the formation of our solar system, we are going to be in a different position, according to what the Solar system is positioned by, and that’s the center of the galaxy.
OK.
So, by changing the position of the Sun, we could end up on the other side of the galaxy, almost instantaneously.
But, without, for example of a car that you must wear your belt, your seatbelt, because, well, without that force, right, I mean...
Yeah, we wouldn’t have any force, any inertia, because the Sun...
Inertia.
...requirement, we would just be the environment of the Sun, so think of that is like, the Sun is getting positioned, right, and we are along for the ride.
All right.
But there’s no ride, it just happens.
OK, OK, yeah. I got it better now. It’s kind of like ‘Star Wars’ or something.
I think it’s more advanced than ‘Star Wars’.
Yeah, I think beyond the ‘Star Wars’, even further, yeah, it’s and it gets more out there and the more you get into it, so it’s...
Actually, Rick, it’s literally out there, it gets more out there.
Yes, and the more you go out, the more you go in as well, because you learn more about the nano-world and you learn more about your inner world, inside yourself, at the same time. It’s so, that’s part of this new sort of teaching, is, is, in the end they do both.
So, we have 8:57 CET and it looks to me like that back leg is down, I don’t see any line or any shadow underneath to that.
Which back leg, on the left side or?
On the right side.
No, it’s still got the shadow under it, I’d say.
You think so?
Yeah.
Yeah. Couple of millimeters maybe.
He tried to put up a plastic thing underneath of it and it moved the platform so it was still another millimeter to, yeah.
Aha, OK.
But thanks for the explanation Vince, that was really good.
Yeah, thanks.
Here’s a, I put a diagram on that illustrates what we call the ‘free plasma’, or sometimes it’s called the ‘ghost plasma’. And this is just an illustration on the Livestream, with the, you can see where it says ‘ghost plasma’ in the center and it’s kind of highlighted in a yellow-e glow beside the four yellow GANS reactors, and that is basically the resultant plasma from the interaction of the reactors and it’s likely going to be invisible and likely will have its own existence without even being able to see it, and it may be measured by magnetic measuring tools, and it may only be a pulse that comes out every so often, it may not be a constant magnetic field, easily measurable because it’s the plasma; so, that’s why it can be played with, it’s this ghost plasma as the resultant force, resultant, not force, the resultant plasma that occurs from the interaction of the other forces there. So, it’s quite interesting in terms of what we see at the Spaceship Institute now.
With this picture that you have on right here, you can see that it will be difficult to position that top reactor; it would be, it would be hard to move that ghost plasma up or down, due to the positioning of the center pole, so that’s what we have, or they have done with the SSI reactor, is they have changed and removed that center pole, and moved it so that the top reactor is a lot further down. You can see that on the Livestream, it looks fresh.
It’s surmounted from the top rather than the bottom, so you removed the center pin, you’re saying, right?
Exactly; so, the center pin is gone, so it’s not allowing any interaction with that free plasma; because if you noticed, if you look at that picture, the center pin is going directly through that free plasma, so it has an interaction with it...
Yeah, definitely.
...Limiting the number of fields that are being included into that ghost or free plasma. So, you remove that and all of a sudden, you are dealing with directly the environment that you’re in. You are dealing directly with the air that’s around you, and everything else that we live in, as the plasma ourselves. So, then now by positioning the top reactor, and then by positioning it down, where do you think the reactors want to go? It should be pretty easy to determine if you want to ascend or descend.
OK.
So, you position the top reactor down, chances are you are going to go down, that’s what they’ve shown here. You position the top reactor up more, you are going to go up, or lose weight.
OK, OK; but without adding or taking out weight.
All you’re doing is positioning that top reactor, no adding or removing any kind of weight.
Great, great.
That’s why, dynamic positioning, so that we can, I can do the movement itself, while it’s running to see any changes.
Nice, great. So, if, for example, we could say that in the Earth, the ghost plasma of the Earth is like the space, I mean?
Yeah, the ghost plasma of the Earth is in the center core of the Earth.
OK.
OK? Just like the ghost plasma of the Sun is in the center core of the Sun. So we just need to be able to create this ghost or this plasma, with the reactors or with the GANS because they are the closest to that plasma or that strength. So we have to create the environment when nature, as in the universe, does it automatically.
OK.
That’s it with, what’s in the environment, right? So, our Sun was created from what’s in the environment, just like we were created from what’s in the environment; but now you can also take that environment and you can add or change the gravitational magnetic field or another reactor or another star formation, or two more star formations, and change the entire way that plasma will react; in other words, you can create materials because you’re changing the gravitational field. But that’s for future, let’s just deal with the flight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that’s the beginning.
It’s the beginning, exactly.
Nice.
And you can go to all aspects, so, this is what Mr. Keshe was talking about today, by having water, clean water, that’s what we can do. If you want to be able to have energy, we can do that, we just have to find the way to do it, because we have the energy of the Earth and we know that the energy of the Earth that inputs out is in the billions or gillions of watts, right? We just have, we are just accessing it through the material way, which is through wind or nuclear hole, or whatever else.
All right, right, right, nice, nice, nice.
Anybody else had anything to add?
Sorry, I couldn’t hear you before.
Does anybody else have anything to add?
I’m fine for now.
I’m hungry.
Otherwise fine.
I see we are, it doesn’t seem to have dropped too much in the last little while; we can carry on now with broadcasting on the workshop if we like; what do you think Vince? Should we keep it open?
Oh, we can always send the people over to the SSI Livestream, it looks like it’s, yeah, slowing down or just not happening right away, so it could be another hour or so.
So yeah, we should send people over to the SSI Livestream if you want to put link up and then we can end the broadcasting and we can watch it on Livestream from the SSI.
Vince?
Yes?
The reactor here in the front has very strong vibration, it is going to be broken.
Yeah, I see that, it’s vibrating lots, isn’t it?
Yeah, the rotation system will be broken.
Probably a bearing.
Yeah, bearing, yeah.
Vince, can I just ask you one last question? When we talked about, you know, speeds that are just beyond perception, imagination? I mean, it’s, what, my question is: I can’t imagine, you know, to control, I mean how you control the, you know, the direction; do you just get pulled to a certain, like a GPS, certain like a magnetic gravitational field strength that you like locate?…
How did the Wright brothers control their direction?
By changing, you know, the, the wind, what called, the air, in well...
They didn’t. They put up and down, they didn’t fly sideways, they didn’t touch it.
OK.
Right, so, we have to, we have to try to find a way to do that, and now, if what I said about the center reactor moving up or down, and changing the free plasma, the other way is to maybe move one of the side reactors out or in, to move the free plasma to a different way, but the other way to do it, instead of moving the reactors themselves is to add more reactors or to add more fields to pole or push the gravitational magnetic field free plasma to certain points in that star formation, or even outside to that star formation. So, what you’re asking is ‘how do we control it’, we control it by adding gravitational magnetic fields that certain points around, around in a 360-degree way around the reactors. OK?
But, at that point it might be easier to, it might be easier to control the reactors through other means, right, instead of increasing, decreasing rotation, changing locations of the reactors, the reason why I say that is because, you know, once the Wright brothers figured out they had something and they were able to get off the ground, then they increased their research tremendously on what they were doing, right, the airplane came very far very fast. And that’s what we’ll be doing here, there might be another way to change the gravitational magnetic field with another reactor that you can hold, just like what Armen and Marko do now, to try to maintain the link with the reactors on a consciousness level; so, you know, that’s in the future too and that’s not that far away, but, you know, we have to show the beginnings flights first before we can think about moving around faster than the speed of light, ‘cause I wouldn’t want to be trying to move my reactor up or down if I was heading towards something I didn’t want to head towards.
Especially faster than the speed of light, right?
You gotta remember, it takes 8 minutes for the speed of light to reach from the Sun to the Earth.
That’s 300.000 km per second, is that approximate, is that it, is that the speed of light?
Yeah, that’s right; and think about it, you can place your attention and be on the surface of the Sun just by shutting your eyes and imagining it in about half a second.
Exactly.
So we are traveling at hundreds of times faster than the speed of light, right there in our imagination.
Exactly, exactly.
A-ha.
And when we are talking about positioning, if you change your strength, it has to find its position, just doing like I was talking about what the magnets that can find their own position; it’s not moving out of certain speed to try to find that position, it’s moving as fast as it can to try to find that position. And the speed of magnetic fields by far surpasses the speed of light.
Exactly.
The middle reactor there that we see in the picture is definitely going through some changes; it seems to have, just to get the picture a little bit better for the Livestream, it’s, like you said, shaking, and then, all of a sudden it will slow right down and nearly stop.
Yeah.
And then it speeds up again.
Yes, I see that.
So, it’s happening there now? Is that just due to the fluorescent lights or is that, because it really is slowing down and stopping. There, you see, it speeded up again.
You said it’d touch the ground, at 9pm.
The back leg or...?
It could be the back leg, it’s...
Because I see some, a few, it’s like 1 or 2, 3 millimeters from...
I think that’s your, I think that’s a play on the light.
Yeah, right, I think that the shadow is actually from another shadow; if you look at the shadow that comes down across the board...
You know what that is? That’s the measuring stick.
Right.
Oh, yeah, yeah; so it’s really...
It did land.
I said, oh my God, that’s...
I think you’re right, Vince, yeah.
And even the far one is coming down lower.
The pigeon has landed.
The pigeon of peace has landed.
The pigeon of peace, POP, POP for short.
Oh my God.
POP has landed. POP came home.
I don’t think there’s anybody there, I don’t see any shadows around, and I thought I’d just seen the leg, the front leg jumped just a little bit; might have been just me, but... No, it’s moving up and down, it’s trying to find its position there.
Wolf just mentioned the POP, but yeah, but it could be the pigeon of peace eternal, and that would be POPE, the POPE has landed, a? That’s pretty cool.
Watch it trying to find its position, it’s, it’s bouncing.
I’m looking on the SSI Livestream...
The central reactor... This is fascinating to watch, I mean, this, this, this one of the reactors is like seriously, it’s reducing its...
This is like the first flight of the Wright brothers, we all have to understand that, we are present and watching in terms of humanity to the, to be witness of the first flight of the Wright brothers. And I can imagine many, many people would want, would(have) wanted to be around at that time to see that historic event, and right now able to watch it live, and it’s being recorded on the Internet. Thank God for the Internet!
Right on.
Oh, it’s trying, it’s still trying to get down there; the front leg is just doing its damn dance as trying to get down.
Vince meant ‘darned’ us...
Darned us, sorry, yes.
For the kids out there.
Why do you see the reactors, they come slow down after coming fast, perhaps it’s the visual effect?
No, I don’t think so; I think it’s actually doing that. And all of the reactors are doing that, it’s not just that one reactor, they are all...
Yeah, yeah, all.
Speeding up or slowing down.
Yes, indeed.
So, once it fully lands, what do you think Vince, what is going to happen to the rotation speed, rate of speed, or any, general to the, you know, to the rotation of the, of the reactors?
It could break the system.
Aha. Like, break like make it dysfunctional or, you mean like ‘break’ break?
Yeah, I mean like that one reactor that I see in the front there, if it’s still charged the, to follow its position, it might cause more problems than we can see right there with that shaking of that reactor. So, we might see the loss of a core if they don’t raise it soon enough. But that, we will continue to try to find its position and if they don’t allow it, it’ll just keep getting heavier and heavier, right, that’s what I think, I mean. I don’t know if it can go down any further, maybe the elastic is right at its max.
It really looks like it wants to go down.
Yes, it’s coming down. The right leg is more or less a millimeter from the floor.
Yeah; look, it’s bouncing.
I think it’s even less than...
Look, look, it’s coming down. The front reactor had the, had more work to do. The thing it can be said, be writing, I think.
Oh, now was shaking, see?
It is coming, it is coming down, it is coming down, look. The right leg, look at the...
Yeah, it’s trying.
Yeah, yeah, look, the shadow, that is the...
Shadow is getting smaller, yeah. And the other legs are coming down, too.
Look, look.
Yeah, yeah; it’s just the matter of, I don’t know, like 2 millimeters.
Mr. Keshe says the back leg has already touched the ground and that is why we have seen, you have seen the vibrations.
OK.
Right, because if it’s tilted a little bit, and you take the weight off at little bit of the tilt and it has more of the bounce, right, it has more of the equilibrium.
OK.
Mhm.
Until that front leg gets to the ground and then it will be a whim.
Are the motors running with electric energy, Vince?
Yeah, yeah. I think it was total of 20 watts, Rick?
Yeah, it said something like 21, yeah, because he made to this comparison to Los Alamos where they used gigabytes to produce not even 100 Tesla.
It will be gigawatts, I believe.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, probably they used gigabytes too.
It all goes with that technology, lots of everything, and they probably used the giga amount of money, what’s that, billions?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, makes sense, absolutely.
That was true and it’s disappeared right before.
Yeah, well, that’s big times, and they almost got results out of it all too.
So it looks like when they, when it speeds up, that’s when it bounces more; and then it slows down once it bounces a little bit.
They stopped, look; the front reactor has stopped.
No, they are not stopped, no; that’s just the camera. See, you can see the rotation. They’re not stopped, they, it’s the white you see, just like with the time in it.
Maybe it’s an optical illusion with timing of the fluorescent lights or something with the camera.
But it’s really good presentation of, of how much it’s slowing, speeding up and slowing down, right? If they were smooth, we wouldn’t be able to see anything, but because of there is some white stuff or whatever, reflection on them, we can see it like a time in white.
May I ask why those, sometimes it spins faster, and then it goes slower?
Because it’s trying to find, the free plasma is trying to find its balance, it’s losing fields due to the interaction of what’s happening around it, and it can’t find its balance so that, it spins back up to get the balance after it’s lost the fields, and then tries again, and again and again.
Yeah, because now I just saw that they were spinning and then they just go pretty much faster.
Yeah, exactly; that’s what they are doing. They are spinning faster and then it bounces a little bit and they slow down, and then it spins faster and faster, bounces a little bit and slows down.
So, how long time did you begin, like, doing this, like, did you see like, the magnets and everything?
We’ve been out for a long time, I’ve been researching Mr. Keshe for 4 years now, Rick, I think it’s been 4 years since the electro conference.
And myself from before that, when the videos first came out from the Keshe Foundation, about probably 6 years ago now, or something like that. But we’ve been involved with, I started the Keshe plasma reactor group; it’s been I think about 2 years ago now, I think that’s correct.
Yes.
And we’ve met every Tuesday night for that time, and Mr. Keshe got interested in our meetings and that was the first public teaching workshop that was called, started from the Keshe plasma reactor group; we figured why not go live with the workshops, and then we did once a month workshops with Mr. Keshe, couple of years ago, a year and a half ago, and from there, that was very hectic at that time, and now we’ve gone to, what, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and sometimes 6 or 7 workshops a week, basically. So, now the teaching gets out in many languages, including Chinese and Spanish and Italian, and...
Do you speak all that?
No, not me, no, there’s translators during the calls in order to translate, for example, you’d be interested perhaps that we have a Mexican group that’s part of the Keshe Foundation now, and that’s part of the Spanish speaking, it’s on the Spanish workshop, it’s a Spanish-speaking workshop, meaning, you know, everywhere from Mexico to, you know, southern, South America, and parts of Europe and so on, the Spanish-speaking world. So that’s translated into Spanish as the workshop goes, as Mr. Keshe says a few sentences, or talks for a bit, and then it gets translated, Erick’s part of that as well, Erick, that’s on the workshop today. So, yeah, it’s working out pretty good, it’s a hectic schedule, but the teaching gets out in many different ways now.
But it’s so fast, it’s, you know, before we used to have to digest all the complications of the nuclear versions of the reactors, and it was so difficult to try to even think about creating one of these without the nuclear material that we had zero access to, or, you know, didn’t want to deal with. So it was a very complicated process, now it’s become extremely simplified, extremely simplified, and, but the information holds true as in what was true for the nuclear reactors, it’s true for the GANS reactors. So it’s a very simplified process of doing the same thing.
Yeah.
It’s great that it’s so simplified because everybody, including yourself, Hector, could do this.
Yes.
Exactly, and I would really want to encourage you Hector, to do this, this, I mean, you would just, you know, empower so many young people, you know, in your own environment over there, if you start...
Look, look, look, look, look...!
Oh my God, yeah.
The right leg, you see?
Yeah.
It’s jumping.
It’s like, yeah.
Yeah, they’re jumping.
So, go ahead Hector.
Yeah, I was going to suggest that Hector might want to get in touch with the Mexican group, they are very helpful and I’m sure they’d welcome you into, they’ve got projects they are working on, including they’ve got a bunch of CO2 kits ordered and they expect to get into the distribution of the CO2 kits in a big way, so, you might want to get involved with that, and have fun with it all.
Yes, sure.
That’s really a lot to go, and help your fellow man, you could start helping...
Look, look, look, look...!
It’s started moving, look, look. Jumping and moving.
Yeah, the front one, the black one, yeah, especially.
Look, look, look, fantastic.
Yeah, it’s so close, so close to the...
Look, look! Very good, very good.
(Tu hablas espanol, amigo?
Si, yo hablo espanol.
Aah, OK, perfecto. Los dos nos amos un duro poqo dos Mexicanos. Porque no escribes hai a el chat de tu email, o tu Skype, y yo te localiso por alquien.
Este, qua les su mail?
El mio, te voya escribir por el chat.
A, OK. Esta bien, si, mejor. ) – indistinct conversation in Spanish!
OK, si.
(The gist of it is that two of them want to establish contact through Skype or email).
Pardon my Spanish, and the...
Maybe you guys should exchange contacts, and Erick, maybe you can help Hector to connect with the Spanish group, and so on.
Yeah.
The Mexican group rather.
Yeah, he also told me that.
OK, good, I thought I got something, I thought I got the drift there, but I’m not great at Spanish.
(Indistinct conversation in Spanish
The gist of it that they are still trying to establish additional contact apart from the workshop, through Google mail, Skype)
This is net working.
OK, let’s talk in English.
Yeah, thank you very much. So, let me...
Fuck! It’s got near to go. That is very nice. Do you speak German too? Hablas tu Aleman tambien?
No, penos Ingles poquito.
OK.
Si.
Look, the case is jumping; look, it’s jumping, jumping, moving, look!
I think your heart is jumping as much the foot is jumping, Erick.
Yes, my god, look, look!
Wow, fuck!
We’re with the kids’ workshop, Erick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fantastisch. Ich bin ein Kind, I am one Kind. Look, it’s jumping, fuck yeah!
Yeah, Erick, I just want to make sure you can watch your language while we are on the kids’ workshop.
Yeah, we are broadcasting to the entire world now, Erick, so, for the kids.
OK, please pardon me.
Yeah, I’d like to jump up and down, congratulate the Keshe foundation for offering this to humanity, watching these reactors bouncing is actually a great thing to see.
Well, I’d like to see you bouncing, jumping up and down, too, but we have to do the Skype video and that could interrupt with their Livestream here.
Hopefully today I’d get my other parts get this thing bouncing itself.
Yeah, speaking of jumping around, you should have your own little jumping jacks happening there too.
Just to let people know, Vince has been working on the power system for his reactors, power box with power supply and switches and so on, built in, in a nice little unit, it constructed last night mostly, during the Keshe plasma reactor group discussion we had.
Yeah, all the shaking and shuddering of my drill press in that conversation, too, I think.
Yeah, we got some interesting sounds happening in our, both from our shop processes and in our reactors when they’re rotating. There is always each, each set-up like as its own particular sounds that come out of it.
It’s touching the points.
Yeah, the platform has very stark, very strong vibration.
Right, because it’s in that balance point, right, so it’s able to move very easily, any kind of change will show a change on the, the rest of the platform because one leg is down, it’s not stable. When this leg comes down it will be a lot more stable, we probably won’t see as much bouncing, but still drop for the other legs to come down.
Although Mr. Keshe does keep reminding us that the shaking of the platform is one of the indicators shortly before lift is achieved, so maybe we’ll end up going in the opposite direction.
Well, the, just so, so light that, like I said before, if it’s trying to find its balance, and it’s moving, like you said, the shaking, he said we want to stop that, right, we want to stop the shaking so that it doesn’t lose the fields required to be able to get to the point of lift, or sink.
Right.
So, right now with it bouncing like that and still going down, right, that leg is still coming down, slowly, so that means that the free plasma on the center is growing just that tiny little bit stronger than the amount that it’s losing; due to the shaking. And then that’s we just have another post from Mr. Keshe, 9pm CET on, I think it’s 10/12/2014, the dove of the peace star formation set flight in De Sesano, Italy, has touched the ground and landed at the Keshe Foundation SSI, we welcome and the universal community.
Yeah.
Look at that thing bounce.
Are you there, Rick?
Yes.
OK. I do not hear noise, OK.
No, we are still broadcasting on the Livestream and, just to catch this moment in history, you might say. I can turn the volume off on the Livestream for a bit here.
OK. Now, we are on Livestream again with Mr. Keshe, who’s come back.
Yes, at the moment… Yes, at the moment, it’s an exciting time. The boys had to go home, so I have, as usual, to watch the baby. So, it is…
Looks like the baby needs something.
Yeah, we have landed, more or less, on 2 legs, the third on the right-hand side, both legs, more or less, landed. The vibrations you see every time are when one system touches the ground. That’…
I just realized why it just landed on 2 legs. It’s because it’s a dove of peace, it only has 2 legs. It doesn’t want to land on the other 2.
Ha. Ha.
Wait a minute. It’s 2 doves of peace, 2 doves of peace with 2 pairs of legs, perhaps, aha.
I think next, maybe in the next couple of hours we see the total landing. We’ve just got to wait and see what the future holds. So, we are more or less… You see, the vibration is continuously moving…
Yes, we wanted to get a larger explanation of that.
Yeah, back leg is pushing. If you see, the system, at the moment, is on gravitational magnetic field adjusting. What this means is that the field forces of the Earth are not static. They continuously change, especially at the ground level. So, the free plasma is constantly trying to adjust to the Earth’s gravitational magnetic field strength, and we see these bumps, we always talked about this at the take-off, and now you see at the landing. Tomorrow, we will show a number of discs which have been used for space technology and have been lost in the space, through the spaceship program of certain nations. I think now that we have shown its possibility of landing without any fuel, then we show the reactors which are very similar to the reactors you have used and have been used for a space program and have been lost due to technical difficulties, and we have lost some lives in that development, we’ll show it and you see the belt of testing. This has been disclosed to the Knowledge Seekers in past 48 hours, 24 hours. So, now, you see, this is an exact vibration. If you look at the reactor right in front of you, just behind the clock, the vibration is so hard that it’s literally, what do you call it, shaking on its axis, and it changes its speed because, it has to change its speed to accommodate the field changes which are sitting at the outer surfaces of the free plasma. I think we’ll see some more vibration, very, very critical vibration when the 3rd and the 4th leg come down, and then, I have to decide because there is nobody else here, we are going to shut the system down or we’re going, in monitoring the system to crash, because the weight of the system will carry on as it is and most probably it will crash the system into its base. But you see what happens. It is, I’m on night duty, baby, babysitting at the moment, so you can talk as much as you like. Teaching has no dimension tonight. You can ask and if we know we answer.
One question, Mr. Keshe. How big is the plasma, the free plasma that is in the reactor at this moment?
It’s constant, it’s because... As the fields are constantly interacting with the Earth, we lose quite a lot of it to the Earth’s gravitational magnetic fields. Just look at the 1st reactor, just behind the clock, behind the little clock.
Yes?
This shows the interaction of the fields of the free plasma. They are dictating this position now. We expect a lot of vibrations. This is literally a lot of field forces. If I explain it to you to understand, is that when we were at the high level, we had the fields of like trees, and we came down to the shops, and now we are at the herbs’ level, which is a highly strong field, and everything is constantly interacted by the Earth’s magnetic field. If we would’ve done this test during the day time, you would’ve not seen such vibrations, it would’ve been much less, because during the line, sunlight will reduce these field forces. Now, we have to stand… It’s like an upward wind, you know, when you land on the wrong way, and there is a wind coming up against you, makes landing very difficult. Now, we are in the same position. We are landing at night and the suppression of the fields from the above is very little, so we have to stand all the bumps and lumps of the, what do you call it, the dynamic plasmatic magnetic field of the planet. So, if you noticed, sometimes it gets sudden drops, especially just before the right leg, from the neck, touches down, it was a violent drop, it was just like somebody letting, you know, a piece drop in one go. So, we expect the same kind of thing with the left leg which is standing up. The back leg is still up running. We don’t know, we haven’t seen it coming down, but this is a vibration, this is a beautiful condition for the system trying to land. And you see the left leg came down now slightly more, we’ll be coming into balance condition. It’s taken just over 1 hour, just about 1 hour to touch down the 2 legs.
Can you explain how the motor, especially the one in the center there, the closest one next to the clock, it seems to slow down, and perhaps even normal stop at times, is it actually happening that way or is that just the camera and light’s reflection?
It is happening in partially, but partially it’s the camera and the lights, but the field forces of the, what do you call it, free plasma is dictating the speed, because, don’t forget, the GANS materials in these cores are not constant, they are not equally spread, especially in these cores there is a mixture of copper and CO2. So, we have this problem with this imbalance, the plasmatic field creates these conditions. But, as we see, the total plasma, at the moment, is still holding the same. It’s not changing. But, it’s a very, this is a very, what, like a violent landing, but this is normal. We’ve got to see how Armen will try to lift us up tomorrow. He has put everything in hand and we’ve got to see, if he can bring 2 reactors parallel to the system, to create a balance lift. It should be able to lift off the ground, but that is his decision, you know, how he handles it.
Mr. Keshe, can I ask you, what is this about, what is RPM? I mean, does it have to be constant? What if it changes? What if it…?
No, it changes according to the strength… The field… The fields dictate most of it now. We see changes on the power, so we have to see how… Just a minute… I have to send something out. The fields decide the speed of rotation. In the case of the reactors of Marko, we had a total stop, 2-3 times over the weekend, because the fields of the system passed the fields of the motor and partially the ones which are at the strength of the, what do you call it, copper or whining of the motors, they interact now, they literally stop, they literally stop. Then you have to restart them again or move the fields. You just touch the cores and you drain or change the energy and they start moving. You don’t need to do much.
OK. Are those electronic equipment that are around those, around the fields or surroundings, are they in any way, like, inflicted or…
No, no, no, because the plasmas are all in the fields above, above matter level.
OK.
They don’t touch, because everything, everything which is electronic, I was explaining to the professors, scientists who were here last night, yesterday they were with us, that, we had the plasma, professor in plasma physics, in cold fusion as a guest here, and professor in plasma energy, and I explained to them that electron is a package of magnetic field and the size of this package, of gravitational magnetic fields is dictated by the central core gravitational magnetic field strength of the principal line in the center of the universe. In the center of the universe, in any of the universes we do not have a center, what do you call, principal core. It’s a line which goes right across the center. It’s literally when you shoot a bullet, it’s that kind of condition, because there are a lot of things we have to explain that it can be understood, and one of them is that, in spite of the present assumption that neutron just splits to an electron and a proton, what actually happens is very much like a… how I can… I explained this, it’s like an orange which you open on one side and, let’s say, you take the seed out of its center and you close the orange again. So, you have a line of division and expansion and not as everything explodes to nothing and then comes together. So, this is one of the parameters. So, that, that, what do you call it, the seed in the center of orange is the size of the plasma of an electron and that size of electron is decided by the plasma itself, by the orange itself, what size that seed is going to be, because of what it allows it to grow in and be left out that it can control its size. So, electron package of gravitational magnetic field is so weak that the more powerful gravitational magnetic fields do not even, they just go through them, because they have their order.
OK.
This is how it works.
Thank you.
You’re welcome.
It looks like we’ve got, the other leg is pretty much on the ground and the one on the left is coming down, so when the reactor is shaking, like we see in the front, and it slows down and stuff, it’s losing fields to the environment but it’s still creating that free plasma, in fact…
No, no, no, it’s losing, it’s losing the… what…
The feeding aspect of the plasma…
…fields to the center. I don’t know. Has anybody lost the transmission?
No, I’m good. It’s good here. Erick, can you just see…? This one…
Live, Livestream, is no video there, no video…
Yeah, there is video here, so it must be on your end there.
No, it’s not here. OK, we will dépęche…
So, the, I mean, the, what I am saying is that the interaction of the free plasma to the fields of the environment, as they keep changing, like you said there, it’s still able to feed the free plasma faster than it’s losing due to the interactions, because it’s still coming down. So, it still hasn’t done...
Depends on how you look at it.
I guess. Ha. Ha.
Depends on how you look at it. I… What happened, what we see, is the amalgamation of all the little bits from everywhere. Now, at this level, you will see drastic changes. If you look at the left-hand, it’s vibrating, the left-hand leg, it’s going to drop like, you know, you jump, when you jump off the bungee jumping rope, you are going to see that effect, and this is very important. The fields from the ground now are getting absorbed into the plasma, of the free plasma in the center. So, now, we are not only dealing with the, our cores. We see it, we see it with everything. Let’s see what comes up. It’s very interesting to see how we are going to perform. This is still a bumpy ride, very bumpy. My biggest fear is if the left-hand side drops suddenly, because I have seen this before, we could lose one of the reactors, especially the one in the front will pop up. It will pop up, if it’s very harsh.
Not nice.
Yeah, it is not nice. We are watching it, but it’s not very nice. But we’ll see what happens. But, if it goes to pressurized condition, what happens, when it lands, then the fields will build up in the reactor, in the free plasma area, and then the magnetic gravitational field pressure on the free plasma will start pushing the frame, and if the, upper frame, not the lower frame, the upper frame can get locked then you’ll have release of packages of magnetic field, and is this one of the reasons that little silver reactor is on the back, to absorb it; so, if the reactors decide to release any surplus fields, they’re going to that field, they will be shared with that. And, so, we take the pressure off the frame, but we have to see how far it’s going to go.
But, if that wasn’t there, then that would cause a, quote on quote, implosion of the gravitational field.
No, you will see, usually jumping off the full plate up. It’s like a hopping. You see, now, it’s, I see this hopping, you see the whole frame is getting pushed around, it’s already building up. I just talk about it and you see it. You see that, the whole frame is moving now. We have to see if the gravitational field will, literally will not push the whole frame upward. There is a right possibility.
Erick had sort of a question about that earlier, before you came back, um, regarding the free plasma and the pushing or pulling on due to this positioning and so on. How big of a…
I’m sorry, can you repeat that?
Yeah, I’m trying, I’m trying to make it more, to exact the question. The idea is that why it gets affected by the free plasma. You started that with, what’s the, the field of the free plasma, but what he wanted to try to figure out is what is actually, like, if you were in a craft, how would you contain that, and Vince mentioned that…
You see, in this free plasma, what you have in that position, you try to keep it outside the craft. It has a lot of advantages. But you still keep it within the structure of the craft, because, in so many ways, you need it for different applications. If you look, the bases of the reactors sit in the ditch and the reactor number, what, we call it the top reactor, sits on top of the ditch, and you build your, you build your crafts that where the free plasma is, is more or less outside your craft sometimes, because you can use it for all sorts of shielding, discharging, rapid departures. It’s a very, very advantageous system to have. These are the designs on the usage of the latest technologies available or, what you call, knowledge available in the space.
Right, we’ve progressed to that very quickly, but we still, this is just to basically first versify the labels, right, it’s very simple, undoubtedly, that’s what it is.
Yeah, we see that, I think the left-hand side is coming down, and then we see, if the pressure becomes big enough that it will push the whole plate up. This is, maybe we watch it, this is a very interesting point at the moment.
What would be the size of the gravitational magnetic field? How many kilometers or meters do you think it would encompass at the moment?
This goes to Moon and beyond. These fields are plasmatic. They have already linked with other space programs, space… you see the left reactor, the reactor just behind the clock, is going violent, it’s going out of control. I expect to lose this. If it loses this, it will be no surprise, because this is playing up, it’s not taking unbalance between the systems. It’s violent. This is huge. You’ve got to realize. Every micron, every millimeter you see the frame jumping, this frame weighs 13 kilos. It’s not a feather. You try to throw it, 18-year-old, um, 13 kilograms, try it up in the air, or try to hold it, just holding position, even with 2 legs up, it takes a lot of, a lot of field forces.
Mr. Keshe, one question. What happens if you stop the engines, the motors in this moment?
Nothing, in the space you frequently, you lose reactors, but you should not touch the reactor or take it out to repair it till you have created the field that they can find balance. It’s normal. We see it all the time here, we got used to it. When the reactor stops we don’t panic, because we know… Physically the motor has stopped, but, actually, the plasma inside is still rotating. This is not to panic.
No, but…
Do you control it still? You should probably control it still, as well.
That’s the time the control with mind comes in.
Yeah, OK.
Yes, you can control it quite easily with mind.
But, if you stop the motors in this moment, the structure or the reactor will come up?
Pardon?
If you stop the motors in this moment, all the reactors will come up?
Will they bounce? Will they, will they rise…?
No, they find, they balance themselves. It doesn’t matter. We can stop the reactors physically. You still see the same performance.
You did that before, though? You stopped the reactors?
We did it 2 weeks ago. Now we have the original reactors, space reactors in the other lab. They’re switched off, but they’re still working. We measure fields, we measure change of fields…
Aha…
Because it’s not the rotation of the reactor that’s actually causing the fields, it’s the rotation of the plasma inside the reactor.
Pardon?
I said, it’s not the rotation of the reactor that’s causing the fields, the matter, it’s not rotation of the matter, it’s the rotation of the plasma inside…
It’s rotation of the plasma. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is very… I expect you see, a sudden drop in the left-hand leg. It looks like it’s going to perform on that job. It’s going to drop by 1 or 2 millimeters in one go, and if you look, the front reactor goes from a smooth to a very rough right, if you look at it, and every time it changes from a smooth to a rough right you get a vibration. So, this means the fields of the system are controlling the motion. Just watch, when you see the vibrations, and then you’ll understand.
And it looks like it also wants to rotate a little bit as well.
Yeah, it will do, but the back leg is solidly on the ground, so it doesn’t allow it.
Yeah.
The back leg is on the ground and it will keep it.
So, if you want to move the reactor at its left, from left, next to links side, you have to put more energy in one from the reactors, or how is the system, to move it?
What?
Ha. Ha.
He means, to move the reactors left and right or side to side, how would you do that?
Very easy. Look at the reactor which is standing on the back. In the space technology you don’t have a steering wheel. You see, there are 2 reactors in the background, the steel reactors. Um, we, these, you interact with these, and they will dictate the direction, the position of the system in motion. So, what you do, you move, for example, the silver reactor in the background over the, let’s say, the leg no. 3 which is at the front, which is still hanging up. That becomes the direction of your motion. Or you create a flow direction. This is how, that’s how mainly it’s done.
That means…
But these reactor fields don’t change. So, what you do, your steering wheel becomes change of fields.
Just by moving the free plasma, like you explained before.
It’s done that way. This is your steering wheel. You don’t have wheels, but you have dynamic spherical materials which are rolling. This is very much like, you know, the office chairs you sit on with the wheels underneath.
Aha.
It’s the same kind of operation. You on the top decide which way the chair goes, not the wheels as they rotate. And that direction you decide with these reactors on the side. We’re going to show it tomorrow. Armen has made the system ready. We’ve got the reactor on the stand-by. It just needs to be plugged in. And we see if he can lift us up. He wants to fly before he goes back home on Sunday.
Ha. Ha.
So, he is so obsessed, that he would like to fly.
He wants to beat his own flight home, doesn’t he?
You never know what the problem is with him. He might end up on Mars. I don’t know what I am going to tell his wife. Ha. Ha. ‘Sorry, he looks a little bit green this time.’
So, what is it, you’re home or homesick?
Ha. Ha.
Now, we’ll see what happens. This is a very interesting position we are reaching. You see, the left side is trying to come down. We have to understand. There’s a lot to learn.
Yes.
I was explaining to Armen this week, he’s desperately trying to move, and that is, as an operator and as a developer of reactors, the free plasma is… this system is the most important part of any technology in space, because your food, your energy, your light, your breathing system, your materials all come from this system. On Earth we can go to resources. In the space you go to your free plasma, and whatever you have in there, you decide that what size you would like to chop the, what, or cut the piece of cake or the bread, and that’s your piece, one piece will be iron and the other piece will be gold. So, you use the energy within this free plasma to give life to people. So, operators in the future will literally behave as God. They can even decide, ‘I’m not going to feed anybody with a blue eye’. God help you lot. As Eliya says, finitto. So, operators can decide how the energy in the free space plasma is used, for what purpose, to what due. If you have a construction somewhere, you don’t go and look for materials the way we do on this planet. You absorb, you decide how much energy is absorbed from the plasma, from the reactors, the 4 reactors, and you allow it to come into the free condition plasma, and then you take the materials from it on the continuous basis through a fourth plasma positioning. I have taught these two to the knowledge seekers here in the past couple of weeks, so it’s a knowledge which has already been taught and they’ve seen what to do.
Incredible, Mr. Keshe. Incredible.
That’s why the… Oh, sorry, Erick… That’s why the pilots or the controllers of the systems have to be so correct.
Oh, God. You don’t know how correct yet, till I show you. Ha. Ha. They become gods and people trust their lives with them.
In a previous workshop about correct thinking, correct talking, and correct action, um, could you speak a little bit more about that in relation to upcoming, aspiring kids, who might want to be space craft operators, let’s say?
You know, I was, I was thinking about this in a different way. You know, present time, the politicians do whatever they like when they are young and when they become politicians they decide to become clean, and it’s too late because they left too many track records. This is the same for the youngsters of the future, but they have to be taught from the beginning they don’t make mistakes and problems, that by the end of the day, when they are in any positions, even, like in a, reactor controllers, that their soul is tainted. When their soul is tainted then you lost everything. Let me explain to, maybe the youngsters or to the adults. You, yesterday, asked about love and what it is. A man can love as many entities as he likes, be it the dog, be it the carpet, be it the car, be it the child, be it god knows whatever. When he knows how to love and how to make correct decisions in sharing his love he does not make a mistake. Even if you love your enemies you don’t make a mistake, because then they have to find a way for you, for themselves to hate you to justify why they hate you and what’s, why they are your enemy. And, then you find out they find a solution, that the peace comes to you. And this is the pattern. It’s the pattern of working in the universe. Don’t spend a second trying to harm nobody. Then you find that you become a very, very good operator, as it becomes your second nature.
Mr. Keshe…
What, what I say, what I was explaining recently, yesterday, because I said to the knowledge seekers to listen to the workshop of yesterday, at the Spanish workshop, what people do to love and to be loved is beyond imagination of any creature in the universe. And, loving, which is unconditional, given, as I said yesterday, is the only that all the entities in the universe share. We don’t share language, we don’t share blood, we don’t share soul, we don’t share anything. The only thing we share, we have in common with the other creatures in the universe, is how we can give part of our souls for another soul to evolve to a higher level, and that’s what we call love. And that’s the only thing that all the creatures in the universe share. And, unfortunately, man has learned to abuse even this to benefit himself. And, so, the operators of the future will have a huge problem, immensely huge problem, to be correct and at the same time to love every creature across the universe the same. And, then, they, we will learn. They’ll become a special breed.
Mr. Keshe, one question. Have you been in one spaceship?
Good morning.
He usually refuses to answer that question.
Ha. Ha.
Nice try, though, Erick.
Ha. Ha.
I have to try, my friend.
You thought, because you would surprise him in the early morning. Maybe he is a little bit asleep.
No, no, let me answer you, let me answer you in a different way.
Yes, sir.
Maybe it gives you… I’ve received something from Eliya recently that, you know, it says it in so many ways. I just sent her an email, that we lifted. She wrote very simply, because she’s on her way back to Bulgaria. I said, I wrote to her that we had a landing at 9 am, because she left lunch time in the afternoon. She wrote: ‘When a smart alien and humble humans work together, everything is possible. Congratulations.’
Ha. Ha. That states it pretty well. Yeah.
Let me see.
I wrote back to her: ‘Lots of love and understanding is needed to make it work.’ So, it’s not easy to communicate.
I think so.
If you come to the Foundation, to SSI, it’s become a very friendly family. It’s nothing but, what do you call it, a lot of pain because we don’t achieve what we set up to do, but, on the other hand, at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what happened, we are here all to do one thing. And, one way or another, we managed to get it through. I think the most beautiful surprise will come now with the system which Marko is putting up. He is, he’s, what do you call it, he’s, what I call, the boat of Noah, it’s going to swim.
Teaching GANS to swim.
Not to…
when GANS swims…
It starts to float. It’s got to magraf swim.
Aha.
We had a professor here yesterday and he had a huge problem, it’s the second time we had a… and, it’s strange enough, both of them had been fusion physicists, and he said: ‘Can you, please’, like, exactly what we had a few weeks ago, ‘Can you change the name of this plasma? Because we are used to plasma in a different way.’ I said: ‘I can call it Back to the Front, if you want.’
Ha. Ha.
‘I’ll call it Malpas. Is that good enough for you?’ Ha. Ha. But it’s all the same. Apparently,
plasma physicists have a lot of problems with the plasma, terminology of the plasma.
Oh, this is like a parallel universe.
Well…
So, we call it Balpaf, from now on.
Yeah. They started with the word plasma, and then they had to, once they discovered more and more, they had to keep adding to it and adding to it, and all of a sudden plasma could be anything from intergalactic plasma down to your blood plasma, and it’s a pretty confusing field still, so…
It’s like humans, everything is confusing with them.
Yes, that’s right. If it’s not confusing, we can’t make money on it. Ha. Ha.
I tell you something, tomorrow morning I am busy with some work which is to do, it’s important for the Foundation, but Marko will start and in, hopefully, we come to understanding… We will announce it in the coming… It’s a huge, huge, what do you call it, development for the Foundation world-wide. It’s a… I think it will affect all our work from now on. We’ve been recognized by international governments, leading international governments for our work, and at the same time we have to negotiate how much we will be prepared to accept without being bondaged to one nation or another. And, now we have entered, they have asked us, they’ve called a couple of times today, so we conclude everything tomorrow, and then if they allow us we’ll announce it, that we have entered, we’ve been accepted through the test by governments and other organizations to be correct in most of the works we’ve done, and so we have been requested to deliver the technology in a very beautiful way for advancement of humanity. So, tomorrow morning we are busy with negotiation and how to do it, and one of the problems they have is that we have no papers to sign and they want us to sign the paper. I said: ‘The only thing we want you to sign is the world peace treaty.’ ‘But this is not the way it’s done. We have to have agreements.’ I said: ‘You lot, you agree whatever you like. We have no problem with.’ So, this has become a problem for the people who are with the Foundation. And they start accepting the technology. And they say, ‘You don’t have patents and we don’t know even how to say thank you for this. I said, ‘OK. Make a donation to the Foundation that we can do more research and help.’ ‘But we don’t have this in our country. We don’t have such a thing in our programs.’ I said: ‘Then, you have to find a way.’ It’s just that they want to justify that they have paid for something and they have some control over it. And, with us they don’t pay, it’s free. So, now, they have to find a way to justify their own ways of working.
That was what amazed Hector at the start of this, the whole workshop today, that… He couldn’t understand how could you offer this teaching free. And it was too unusual in today’s world to offer something for free. So, thank you for that, Mr. Keshe. Thank you for that spirit of giving.
Nobody’s going to learn, because there is more, the more we give someone, the more it comes in. It’s…
That’s… I think Hector learned a lot of today just because of that factor.
Yeah, but the youngsters get influenced by the materialistic world quite a lot. If you would have looked at his picture, his photograph, images and how you look is important at their age. And, then, finding out…
That’s true.
… that there is more time to spend in doing other things and still be a happy child, it’s very difficult nowadays. And, these people are looking, children are looking for ways to salvage their souls because they know what’s going on, random, is really impossible.
And some of them are quite sharp and aware of their, both their environment and of, you know, spiritual things as well for their age.
Youngsters nowadays are too clever for any age, doesn’t matter where you catch them.
Yes, that’s right.
I think it’s too much McDonald’s chips.
Yeah.
They put something in these things. You know, the cheating in the food business is so much… I, I hope we don’t have to do that in the space. You maybe remember, 10, 15 years ago, when you used to McDonald’s to get a Big Mac, it was the size of your face and you could actually measure the thickness of the half, of the burgers. I was in a place trying to get a Big Mac recently. I actually had to open the burger to look for the burger inside it. It was like a wafer thin. And it’s called a Big Mac. So, we cheat and we think people are blind, they don’t know. And, to teach this to children is very difficult for them.
They’d probably market it as the thin Mac and that makes you thin, because there’s no meat there to eat.
I think they should call it Wafer Mac, not a Big Mac.
Wafer Mac. Ha. Ha. There you go. That’s a good one.
It’s a wafer, just a wafer.
That would sell. It makes you turn into a wafer when you eat it.
How often… I think they’d eat it. It’s about 10:30. I’ll try to be here for another half an hour to see, maybe to watch this thing to land, if it fully lands with the 4 legs, and then we see how violent it shakes. Depending on the violence of the shake, we most probably stop or hang it further up. We, we, I have to pull it up, that it doesn’t damage itself. The detector, the field detector is beyond, you do not see it.
I think your field detector just went off.
Yeah, it’s Eliya. She drives them right things.
Eliya field detector, that’s what that is.
Ha. Ha.
You know, Eliya’s magrav field or her free plasma reaches out for hundreds of miles.
Yeah.
Strangely enough, we can all do that.
Oh, God, I can’t, you know, I don’t know where she gets all the energy. She’s driving.
And, there’s snow there, too, I understand.
Yeah, yeah, it’s very bad, it’s freezing.
Meanwhile, here in Canada it’s thawing out and it’s raining and it’s few degrees above. In my part of Canada, at least. I don’t know how Vince is favoring.
Oh, it’s actually beautiful here, it’s +15 degrees, there’s no snow left on the ground and…
Really?
Wow, I’d never…
There you go. So…
Here is nice and cool. But…
And no GANS freezing experiments for this week, I think. Maybe next week.
Pardon?
I said, no GANS freezing experiments this week. Maybe next week.
This week, oh. We don’t get frost here that much. There’s a beautiful lake here. We see the snow, the first one that came this week, but now we don’t see snow. But we are moving down south of Italy. That’s what we are doing, over the Christmas, to move much, about a thousand kilometers down south, to a warmer place. This place is not that warm.
So, it means the labs set up and so on will be in a different location. Is that what you’re saying? Basically… I mean…
Everything that the knowledge seekers… We’ve been, we’ve been offered accommodation for the Institute as a university in the south. We’ve seen it about 3 or 4 weeks ago. But it’s a matter of finding accommodation and moving everything down south. It’s a huge move, but, on the other hand, we move near people who have the facilities for the Foundation, for development of new systems, because we need to join and link up with the groups which are able to do this. And, at the same time the talks are going on for, you can do a Master’s and even a PhD, most probably, in the coming months, on different topics of the Keshe Foundation.
Yes, it seems like an enthusiastic group there, the, I guess it’s at the university, that it’s centered around, at the university down.
Yeah, it’s just that we are dealing with a bunch of highly skilled, educated people, and extremely, extremely active, extremely active. So, we have no problem with it.
So, those people aren’t just in the universities. There’s not professors and so on, but these are people in companies and so on. Is that what you mean?
Yes, yes.
Right.
Very much, yeah, engineers, doctors, we, we have… I think it’s that brain surgeon who wants us to collaborate with different patients around the area. He’s a well-know, apparently, surgeon, brain surgeon in Italy, and we sat down with Doctor Eliya, talking to him last time we were there, so he wants to run cases directly under his own supervision with different people, or more, some of his patients, so we had to see what the next step is. Things are moving quite drastically, quite, quite interesting for us. But we have to see where the next step is, what’s going to happen, because it’s out of our hand now. Especially those who watch these things and they understand what this means, landing and take-off, in such a controlled way, they understand that game has changed.
Exactly, as in, are we still on for Christmas lunch on Mars, I think it was?
It says ‘chateau Mars 2018’, we are still 4 years to go. If you go on the original Keshe Foundation website, space, SSI, International Space Institute, it says ‘chateau Mars 2018’, so we are still on target. There is a lot to do, a lot of things need to be done. My god, this, this platform is moving, it’s adjusting itself. You see it?
Yes, yes.
It’s sliding sideways to allow the other leg to come down in one jump. It’s going to land fully in a few minutes. I’m just watching to see how it’s going to land.
It will be very interesting.
I think what’s going to happen is with the two legs which are already on the ground; they’re going to go up, for the system to be balanced. But it’s going to land, it’s going to finish in the next half an hour now.
This reactor in the front has a lot to work.
Yeah, it has to land, it’s just a lot of work, it’s got to land, we’re staying live, we’ll stay online till, I mean, I don’t go to sleep until it’s landed because I have to see what is the outcome, how it’s going to perform, and then we make a decision how it’s going, if it can, or how Armen gonna fly it up; how we are going to pull it up. This is a very violent landing, extremely violent. You should not have this kind of landing like this.
Could it be because of the one reactor in the front there, it’s a little bit wobbly, and maybe bearing is going out on it?
No, no, no, no, no, it’s just, don’t forget, it’s the fields which are pushing it. This is a closed area, there are no winds, there is nothing in there, it’s locked up.
I mean the bearing that’s, is spinning inside, or is it just attached to...?
No, no, no, these have no, physical condition has no effect on this. We can switch it off, it won’t change anything. Unless you physically remove the reactor from the, its housing, the material rotation has no effect anymore; it’s just centralizing the field release. But it’s coming down very, very slowly, but it’s pulling up to balance.
Yes, I see.
That is the strange part. Yeah, because they are not on the top, I think it’s done on one side of the plate. It’s still, still about half a centimeter away. It’ll land by 12 o’clock most probably, or just before. You see sudden jerks, it just drops suddenly; this is a, this is a 13 kilo, it just moves like a feather.
Mr. Keshe, if you want to take something heavier, up or down, you have to put more GANS inside the reactor, so what you have...
No, no, no, no, the reactors will decide on their own. We’re just, we’re just adding more and more to see what happens. The mass now is irrelevant, the dimension of this reactor most probably is about the 2, 3 meters from the center, maybe more. Physical interacting of fields is more than 2, 3, maybe more, 10 meters.
So the things that are in the, near to the reactors, they have the same effect that the all reactors, the weights, everything?
Pardon?
I think he means that anything in the fields, is it also experiencing a weight gain?
No, only the central plasma. The free plasma, because it has a specific principal matter strength is getting loaded, so, as it gets stronger, is interacting with the Earth magnetic field.
How do you make to...
So, he absorbs everything, everything goes inside.
How do you make to make, to make this field more, more big?
There are two, three ways, I’ve taught the knowledge seekers, but they don’t understand it. They can’t see it so we have to wait till they see it, there is a video I saw yesterday, I think Rick was playing. They have to learn how to control the plasma, and that’s one thing they haven’t learned yet. Excuse me, I have to do one thing, and I’ll come back in about 10 minutes.
OK.
And, if the system flies, good luck; just say, let us know. Probably back in a few minutes.
OK, we’ll wait here.
Look, Vince. Vince? Are you here?
Yeah, I’m here.
OK. I have looked...
Yeah?
Yes. When the platform moves, moves from left to right, the reactor stops; yeah, almost stops.
Slowing.
Yeah, it’s slowing, so, the vibration from the reactor does not have to be, nothing to be with the movement from the platform.
No, because the reactor’s spinning faster or slower and the platform is doing everything else independently.
Yeah, yes, I have understood, but I want to confirm the effect, I have confirmed the effect; when the reactor comes, goes into vibration, it’s nothing to be with the platform, that is Mr. Keshe...
I think he was just checking the back leg; don’t step on the camera, Mr. Keshe.
Please, move!
But, see, it bounces, it bounces, moves around, and then it turns a little bit, and then it just drops that every little bit, and then it bounces around a little bit, and Vince repeat, it just continuously drops.
Yes.
Talking about the left-hand leg there, right?
Only one reactor is vibrating, no? The others not.
I think they are but it’s harder to see.
Yeah, from here I don’t see that. I looked the chart and the chart from the reactor but I don’t see that they vibrate, only the strong reactor.
Yeah, not as much as this one, for sure, yeah.
What I think, is the bearing; the bearing is going to be cut, broke. The bearing from this reactor. Vince, these reactors have, they have two, two bearings, or only one?
I think there are two, it’s like of the acrylic.
Mhm, mhm. How come, how come the reactor with two bearings is vibrating that way? Have to be one...
The top...
One has to be broken.
Yeah, the top bearing could be worn out a little bit, allowing some movement in the top. But it’s still...
They are very... They are very, small bearings, and for this vibration, it has to be broke, because when you have a big bearing, the tolerance for the vibration is more; for one small bearing, this vibration is a lot.
Right, but it looks like it has nothing to do with the, with the speed of the reactor because it still goes up, along with the middle reactor and other reactors. So you can see there that the speed has increased a lot, and yet it’s still bouncing around, right?
Mhm.
Right, then it starts to slow down and you can see the change, it’s slowed down now, sort of wobbling around, but the cage or the platform is still bouncing around, so it doesn’t have any effect on the actual platform, it seems.
The plasma, you know, it’s not affected. But the equipment, the motor on the bearing seems, I think, hot.
Yeah, the bearing could cease, yeah, that’s something that could happen. And, then you’d probably lose a core at that point.
Yes. So, what is the idea to make, OK, we are going down. How to make, how to go up? You have to make the pull with the other reactor that is up, the other steel reactor?
Wait, he said there are a couple of different ways that can be done, so, we’ll have to see what they choose to do, to see what happens. He said they could pull it up, they could move the entire platform up another 2 centimeters or whatever, so that it’d come back down, or they can try to change the formation a little bit, to make the entire formation go back up, to lose weight. I think that’s what he said.
Mhm. I sent yesterday one design to Armen for the new reactors, if you, if that be in, you can get the same idea, to look the idea, the idea is very good; they, in this way, the, you spend a lot of time to make the plasma in the position, perfect position, rotating position. I think when you make all the plates, all the plates rotating, you can make the plasma positioning, plasma run, in 1 or 2 minutes or 5 minutes, may ready to fly you, to operate.
Yeah, sorry, sorry to interrupt you here, but I have to go get my son, so, I will be back, I’ll be on Livestream though but I won’t be able to talk.
OK, my friend, no problem.
Rick, are you there?
Yes, I am.
Did you understand what I said, how to make fast start from the plasma?
Not exactly, I was away from the conversation for a little bit there, trying to get a bite to eat, actually. Can you refresh me, what do you mean exactly?
Yes. In this way, this configuration, that has these reactors in the moment, Mr. Keshe says it needs 15 days or 20 days to make the plasma ready to, to work, yeah.
Right.
So, if you put the, if you make the plate, the plate that has the 3 reactors down, if you make this plate move around, turn around, if you make it with one engine, you can make in, what I think in 2 minutes that the plasma, make the plasma ready to fly or to act, to operate. You understand?
I think so, I’m just not clear on how that would work, as far as, you’d have the reactors, the 3 bottom reactors would rotate around the central area;
Yes, indeed.
They would rotate fairly quickly, you mean, not just slowly move around, but they’d find their own position according to their rotation and so on?
If you have a little bit GANS in your hands, you can put the GANS, or crystal, you can see inside, you move in your, yeah, you move around, you move around, oh God, I’ll show you in, I show you, you will see this effect because the plasma always has north and south. I’ll show you the effect. What I mean, I’ll bring, I bring some GANS. Can I take my camera on? OK. (In Spanish) Yo no entiendo… Ah… No, I cannot. Ah, yeah, yes, OK. OK, I’ll show you. If you rotate the glass in this way, in one central position, the GANS comes very slowly to rotate, very slowly until you make the 5000 revolution, it’s the same thing; comes very slowly. But if you make this way, look, all the plasma come up, all the plasma come up in the middle, and the equator immediately comes rotating. You can stop it in one side, in one way, or in (the) other way, if you, if you make so. The plasma has the, the plasma, the GANS has north and south and you can see it perfectly when you make this way. Your house would light, you can see, if you come right side, rotate right; you stop and come back, it comes in the other way, immediately. So when you make the position for the 3 reactors in 1 plate and rotate all the plate, all the plate, you make this start very fast. The start for the, for the plasma rotate, you make very, very fast, in minutes; you can do it. You will see it. And you can control the axis; you have the plate, OK, I take one, one paper, I have here one paper, I don’t see, OK; I’ll make one, a little plan here; OK, you see this? Can you see?
More or less.
OK, I’ll show you. You can rotate all the 3 reactors, yeah, all the 3 reactors rotate in one way. Or you can make the reactors in different positions, when you make more velocity, more fast the rotation, the reactor comes in axis, outside, and goes more fast. When you go, when you make the rotation slowly, the reactor comes to the middle. Here you make a spring, something like that. The reactor comes, here when you rotate fast, in this position, and here, when you, in this position, when you rotate slowly. So you can control the way for the start, the plasma inside the reactor. Did you understand? Perhaps not.
I think I understand what you’re saying there, I just, it seems like a, I don’t know, you could try that, I guess, it’s a little complicated to put springs and the rotating platform, all your reactors and all the wiring, and all, the everything else, are you saying there’s been no motors on those reactors, it would just...?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can have motors too. You can have a motor, too.
So that means you have to have a system that’s all self-contained with batteries and so on, not plugged into the electrical system.
You don’t have to, not to contain the battery, so everything in the plate. Only you make different rings, big, more small, more small, and this ring comes in one carbon and takes the energy from, from, yeah, from outside.
Yeah; so you are starting to get into a very complex system there, that would require a bunch of machining and so on, I suppose they could consider that, but right now they are running separate motors to each reactor to control them. If you were to do that, you would have 3 wires, 4, you would have 12 wires, your 12 rings that you’d have to have in your rotating apparatus, in order to...
Yeah.
Yeah, quite complex...
With the small rings and carbons there is no problem, they’re like Bruce motors; you know, you make more rings. You don’t have to make big rings, small rings, you make, you need 15, OK, you make 15 rings, that’s no problem.
No problem, a? Why, you go ahead and try it, see how long it takes you to put that together. I think that it’s too complex because right now, they have a simple system; why would they want to make a complex, what’s the advantage? You say the few days, you mean it will be faster to rev up, is that what you mean? Faster to get going?
To start, to start the system.
How do you know that these, the plasma wants to start faster? Maybe Keshe has a certain, maybe he has to allow it to take certain time.
What I think, it has to be like that, because the plasma has to make the configuration, the doughnut configuration in the equator from the, from the reactor. When that’s happened, the plasma start to create, start to make the, the work. So, only you can do, other way you can do is rotate the, all the plates, and in one moment stop the plate, in position that this plate can use the energy from the, from the, under from, from here. The more time they take to make the plasma in position, 15 days, is because they have to move all the plasma and make the doughnut, the doughnut in the equator. That is the long time they use to make. If you do so, the 3 reactors, I’m sure it will be very fast. We can, I cannot question that to Mr. Keshe because my English is very bad. You can do it.
Yes, you are pretty good there, it just, if your diagram was...
I listened to your input, Erick.
Thank you very much, sir.
I’ve been sitting in the background, trying to do some work; this, in a way, cannot be done. It’s not easy. We can reach plasma within 5 minutes.
Oh, yeah.
It’s just matter of knowledge seekers understanding what they are doing. One of the reasons we go so slowly and in different ways is because here should not become ‘monkey sees, monkey does’. Otherwise, we gain no knowledge. As you know, Armen has been trying to, to get move and move things for past nearly week here. And he decided to hold the reactor in a different way, and I suggested a different way, originally, but so his decision was to hang it the way he did and for him was to learn what pressure is put into position in doing so. And this afternoon, I, because I could see the strain on the, on the system was too much, I decided to interfere after a week. I said ‘Armen, now we do it the way I originally proposed’, and we changed it and within 2 hours we landed. The whole structure is to learn and not to just be a magician; to understand the reasons. We can fly reactors within minutes, from the time of assembly, or without even dynamic reactors available. But, you’ve got to realize, a large number of people are watching our progress, and more and more governments are watching the progress of the Foundation. So, we, if we do anything out of line, it becomes a magic show. And this is something I try to keep the thing away from the magic show. So, if we decide for me to make a plasma, it will be a matter of minutes. But it doesn’t serve any purpose. The way we have carried the people with us over the past years and now in a more rapid way in past few months, with the knowledge seekers, and spreading the technology equally everywhere, has been the key to success. And if you want, you can sit next to me, within minutes, not only I can make you plasma, in any shape or form you like, I can fly the system for you, but it does not serve the purpose. We have to carry the masses. And different people come (up) with different ideas in doing things. So, it doesn’t take 15 days to make plasma, it takes knowledge seekers that much to understand where they’re going wrong and what hey have to learn.
Thank you, sir. I will think how to do it in another way.
It has to come up in different ways. We have to think of different ways because we find solutions. For different, what do you call it, problems, or whatever we take it, I always say, people take from this technology according to their understanding and intelligence. And, as I always say, putting a suit on the back of a monkey doesn’t make the monkey human.
Yes, I think so.
So, you do your way and you explore the way you do things and, it’s interesting the way the technology’s developing. But people all finding their own ways of doing the same thing, but with different answers and results.
Thank you, sir.
You’re welcome. Nobody is wrong; the minute somebody tells you are wrong, it means you are 100% right, but they don’t know it. But, try to see if you can do it, it’s very interesting, it’s a nice proposal.
Yeah, I saw this effect with the emission plasma, a little bit plasma, when I turn here, in this way, the plasma comes very fast in the equator. When I do it 500 revolutions, it has to come very, very quickly in the doughnut shape. That was my idea.
You can try that. At the end of the day, the system goes into belt shape plasma; it takes the shape of a belt on the equator.
Yes, that is the first step. Hello?
I’m listening, I’m listening.
Yeah, I have lost the sound. Yeah, I will try this idea, I’ll try; I think, you say it’s very good for me, to try the things, because the first step has to be to make the doughnut, the doughnut with the plasma, with the GANS, I think. What do you think?
As I said to the plasma physicist, if you understand the work of Taco Mac...
Yes.
I love doughnuts; but the ones you can eat.
It was good, that was.
You should tell them not to play with their food.
You know, each field has its own way of doing things and talking. When we used to be in university, we used to have a T-shirt which was, you know, part of the logo of the department. It says on the top: “I’m a fast breeder”. If you understand the terminology ‘breeder’, because we have fast breeder reactors to make plutonium, whatever else they do with it, and on the bottom it says “I’m a rabbit.” So, if you see the connection, ‘I’m a fast breeder, I’m a rabbit’, because rabbits breed very fast and they have a lot of children, so plasma physicist, especially in the Taco Mac, they are hungry people. That’s why they always think of doughnuts.
Wow, there is a theory for you. There is, what, there is several thousand, I think 10.000 scientists are involved with the CERN type projects, they all tie into the data flow and do their own experiments from that data flow and so on, but they are all probably doughnut lovers, that’s what the concept is.
No, the program is just tuned to create PhDs, to publish papers to show which nation is more intelligent. They all know that, if you speak to the people on top of the ETA and the people who are involved with it, they’ll all tell you ‘we do not expect to produce any energy; we just want to understand more’. According to most of these scientists, in reality, as I always say, fusion is a dream which will never come true the way it’s done and there is never fusion oin the universe. I was explaining to the fusion professor yesterday who was here. There is no way, and he said, I said, ‘the only way if you are looking to fuse two helium or two protons to, hopefully, to have helium, then to have fusion or whatever, or fuse two ions, to just have enough energy, the easiest fusion is what I call ‘interatomic fusion’. Fuse an electron and a proton; this way they are in the same house and you don’t need to use that much energy. Oh, Armen is back, good morning, Armen! Oh, he’s awake! So… Yes, you’ve gone home and I’m babysitting! He says motors are not touching the ground, yes, I know, and they can see this just back of the, the watch, you see that the motor bottom is quite, I think it’s about more than a centimeter away from the ground.
Yes, it is on.
Vince, or is anyone interacting with the reactors? Yes, we are jumping up and down on it. I think it will land by 1 o’clock the way it looks, maybe sooner, but about 1 o’clock we’re going to land.
Rick, are you there?
Yes, I’m listening.
Aha, OK. I can’t hear the motors, the noise of the motors is not stable.
No, you can’t hear the noise on, this is the noise of the heater here. The motors are downstairs on the ground floor, we are upstairs.
OK, pardon me.
We hear it in the background, if the heating stops, but...
Yeah.
Call it, we, we are sitting here because it’s pretty cold and we are upstairs so the heaters are blowing, the central heating is all switched off, I’m in one room, so...
Vince says the same problem. When his propane heater kicks in, it sounds like a turbo jet taking off and we expect him to go through the roof.
Yeah, in Germany it’s very cold, too.
I think the whole Europe is going to freeze this year.
Sounds like everyone will have to move to Canada to keep warm.
Ha, ha! You won’t have any fuel!
Yeah, that could be.
But I think maybe you can use some maple syrup.
I was just talking about that to my co-worker Guy the other day, about putting maple syrup in a reactor, and we were debating whether to dilute it with water first or just use it straight, and the idea would be to put the syrup inside the reactor, in this case a ping-pong ball reactor, and you spin it so that the syrup coats evenly on the inside wall of the reactor, and then, we have an electrode, “Tungston Thorium Electrode” that’s used in welding normally, and I would put that in the center, it’s insulated with shrink-wrap insulation around it, and put that in the center of the sphere, and then we were going to run some kind of voltage in a vacuum situation and essentially, carbonize the sugar onto the walls of the reactor and end up with the graphine or activated carbon-type coating on the inside; that was the plan. Unfortunately, I missed that comment on Livestream because the audio was off, but Mr. Keshe just said ‘My god, you lot go too far with the technology’, is that what you said? Too far, yeah. We tend to think too much instead of just doing it, I think that’s a problem, the problem in our so-called ‘more advanced countries’, we outthink ourselves.
Yeah, I’ve tested the two legs, the back is totally on the ground, the front leg on the right-hand side totally on the ground, so every time you see the system jumping, it’s the, it’s the field jump. It’s very interesting, so, it’s magnetic gravitational field cake. Now, the back leg most probably is landing, that’s why you see, start to see these violent motions. When you take off, you should see exactly the same kinds of vibrations as you see when you’re landing.
OK, well, that’s a good point, because when we saw the shaking earlier, I mentioned that shaking is known to occur when there is a lift-off condition. But that also occurs when, can occur on the landing condition too, is that the way it goes then?
Yup, not very far.
The landing comes because you force to come in, this from the gravitational fields; the take-off is from magnetic field. It’s two different fields but it’s more or less the same, near enough. When you take off, the magnetical field of the Earth pushes you away. When you land, you link up with the gravitational field of the Earth to get pulled to it.
Could one also link up to the gravitational field of the Moon, and be pulled toward it, or is, you’d have to push away with the magnetical field of the Earth far enough first, in order to focus on the Moon as attractive gravitational force. Does that make sense?
It’s the combination of two.
Mr. Keshe, when you want to go up or down, do you have to take reverse from one the mot…, from one the reactor, from one of the motors?
Can you explain what you mean?
Yes,…
Are you saying you have to reverse, that you might reverse the motors, is that what you’re saying there, Erick?
Yes, one from the motors, or...
You do not touch your motors whatsoever.
Motors are always working.
Motors will all the time, the same direction, the same speed.
The same speed, the same direction. So, you have to...
You have to change, you have to change the speed, you have to change your clothes, as I say. I was trying to explain to the knowledge seekers; you have to go, open up your plasma and go into higher strength. So, what you do, you literally, it’s like turning the clothes inside out. That’s the way it’s usually done.
Aha, OK, OK. I…
And that way, that way, the, the if you’re going to turn the motors and you have to wait to build the speed, and, we have tried it here for knowledge seekers, they’ve seen it, Armen knows very well that highest speed does not make any difference; we have to come down back to lowest speeds. The speed of rotation does not work, that’s the habit of man. The faster you run, the more rotation, the fire power you get. You have to understand the work of a plasma. If you understand the work of a plasma, then you understand you only work with the field charges.
OK.
And if you do that, you don’t need to do anything, you can instantaneously go from, let’s say, power of 10 times the speed of light to 20 times, 100 times the speed of light, in an instant. So, you’ve got to understand how to operate plasmas, not how to run a plasma in a motor condition.
In other ways, you have to take the strength from the inside of the plasma, to out, to go in one way, to…
No, in a way, if you understood what I said, you have to change the clothes, the outfit of the reactor’s plasma.
Yes, yes, yes.
Not the physical part of the reactor.
Yes, yes, yes, I understand.
As long as you are involved in physicality, you have a huge problem. You know, in the center, Armen tells you, we have put a hat at the time, at the junction when the students go to the, to the white house. And I said to them, ‘the minute you get this hat to turn in, remember to put your matter brain behind and put your, what do you call it, plasma hat on; because, you cannot work between two, or mix the two. You have to start learning that only, anything you think, OK, how does the plasma work? Not all, this is the main, the matter works, plasma should be the same.
OK, in that sense, could you not have another plasma field enclosing this whole structure, that would be another layer, like, that could actually form sort of the skin of a ship, or an enclosing field in this case, that would enclose all the other plasma fields of more superior field? Would that work? You are controlling the plasma with the plasma. Pardon me, sir?
What do you think the reactors are doing outside, hanging around?
Yes, right.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, perfect. Yeah, perfect.
Good answer.
You take the force, the strength from the plasma inside, not outside, when you want something, or bring the strength from outside, not inside. That is what I understand. And that’s why he used the two reactors outside, to bring this strength out or in. That is what I understand. We have two things more; very interesting.
In a way, yes, in a way, no.
Tell me which one is no? Please, sir.
Both are ‘no’ and both are ‘yes’, but in reverse order altogether.
It’s like the outside reactors create the field which encloses the inside ones?
Yeah, and if you can push the inside one out, turn it over, you’ll get your magnetic field pressure.
Yeah, correct, that is my, oh, thank you, sir.
Do you understand?
Yes, yes, perfect. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, perfect. Yes; so, you have to create with the outside reactor the much strength inside, to bring this strength out, yeah.
Bravo, congratulations. See you on Mars tomorrow morning.
Ha. Ha. Thank you sir, I will try.
Strange enough, listen to what I received from Eliya. This is just what she sent me a few minutes ago. It says ‘so, if now it is able to realize a system, will fly, except if (an) aluminum reactor runs with CH3 on top like a small Sun’. Do you understand?
Will you please say again?
Eliya says, ‘So, if now it is able to realize the system, then the system will fly, except if the aluminum reactor runs with CH3 on top like a small Sun’.
Mhm. I didn’t know that this aluminum reactor runs with CH3, yeah.
She is saying if you create a small Sun outside the system...
Yes?
...then you fly into the Sun.
Correct, correct. So,...
You don’t need to go to the Moon, or create the condition of the Moon.
Mhm.
You’ve got to realize, Eliya has understood the concept of the technology so deep that is fantastic to see a doctor to understand physics so unconditionally.
Unbelievable.
And it amazes me even the physicists don’t understand what the doctor in medicine understands.
Unbelievable, yeah. Very intelligent.
She is extremely, extremely, deeply understood the whole concept of the technology, and I think we bring her in as a nuclear physicist and a medical teacher. I admire her knowledge and the logic she works with. Because, she analyzes things in a way, on a human level, but in a way, in a practical way that physicists don’t even understand.
Unbelievable. Mr. Keshe, the reactor that is outside, on the right side, is filled with CH3, too?
No, no, everything is CO2 mixture or copper oxide.
The reactors outside, too? You have the small reactor that’s not in the place.
We don’t have any reactor with CH3 at the moment.
At the moment, not.
Armen is in the background, you can give him a kick, he might answer us. Even the… Armen, where are you? The funny thing is that Armen came in, today, to find a way to fly, but he landed.
Armen, Armen. Ah, very good.
The joy of landing, it was better than that of taking off.
The irony is of flying things; trying to get away from Italy, but here he is, landing instead.
The, the third leg is just more or less coming down to touch.
In the reactor that is in the star formation, that is CO2 and copper oxide, OK?
Yup.
Mhm.
And more copper oxide than CO2, or vice versa?
No, yes, no, no, vice versa.
Same quantity?
No, no, I think it’s different, I think it’s 3:1.
3:1? OK.
But the thing is, you’ve got to realize where the copper oxide sits within the layer of the CO2.
In between? This is in between?
Not really, maybe, but not really; it goes to the back.
To the back is to outside or in the...?
The outside, because the heavier will go to the outside.
The heavy outside.
Yeah, because the system at the moment in that state’s working in a vacuum condition.
Yes, clearly. Heavy materials don’t come inside?
No.
Mhm. Mr. Keshe, there is one moment in the reactor that CO2 comes between the copper oxide and come outside, changing the place; mhm, mhm, yes, yes.
It does sometimes, depends, depends what pressure is inside, gravitational magnetic field pressure.
Yes, yes, yes. In this way, you decide if you want to go up or down.
In so many ways, yes.
Yes, mhm; yes.
So, if CO works like that, have to be one moment when the copper oxide is inside the CO, this is, altogether, about one millimeter from the other, one layer.
Why would it do that, though, if it’s GANS state, which might tend to separate out according to its, how dense it was or how its magnetic field layer, gravitational field layers, actually, whilst it’s rotating? Wouldn’t it? Or would there be some circulation between the layers?
There have to be one moment when the copper oxide is inside…
There is a circulation, there is a sliding of different gravitational magnetic field GANSes on top of each other, even in one material or the same material or composition of materials. You cannot stop. This is how the stars create their gravitational magnetic field, by variation in the strength. It’s going to land soon.
Yes, sir, I see the system very nervous. Excuse me for a moment, I’ll come back in 2 minutes.
That’s a good word, it gets nervous, as though, the same as passengers on airplanes get nervous on, before take-off and before landing.
Yeah, Armen is flying, the second we go out for a walk, for a cigarette. Hello?
Hello, Mr. Keshe.
Yeah, I sent them, they asked to go for a, they want to go for one, while on altitude, they would like to go outside for a cigarette.
Ha. Ha.
It got away. It’s going to land in next 20 minutes, half an hour, I hope, and then we’ll see the results and then we can call it a night, but it’s as hard as giving birth at the moment.
Ha. Ha. Yeah. That’s… yeah.
I think I’ve been waiting for this for years.
It’s certainly been your baby.
But, the millimeter, Mr. Keshe…
This is a difficult birth.
It’s probably more due to the environment than the problem with the mother itself.
Ha. Ha. We don’t know. We don’t know.
Humans are becoming more receptive every day, I think, to new births like this.
Now, there is, everything is acceptable because we can’t refuse this. We are the only creatures who go for abortion, huh?
Yeah, we even abort take-offs and landings.
Huh, we’ll see. Just got to see when this thing’s going to land and how it’s going to land, and then I go, because of what I said, it’s very early tomorrow morning.
Mr. Keshe, to attract, to attract the, for example, to attract the copper oxide outside, one has to, one has to have in the other reactor, in the reactor outside, has to take the copper oxide in the middle, in the middle from the other reactor, or in another way?
Can you explain?
Yeah. To go up or down you have to change the strong, the forces inside the reactors, yeah?, from inside to outside, or you use the other reactor to bring these forces out or in. So, you have, to go up, for example, you have to attract the copper oxide, the strength from copper oxide with the reactor outside. So, in this moment, the reactor outside having the copper oxide in the middle part and CO2 in the outer part. My English is not good, Mr. Keshe. Pardon me. Ha. Ha. Rick, will I tell you, help me?
I don’t understand what you are trying to explain, unfortunately.
Yes, I know.
I just got to go and check and see how far we are from landing, and then I will come back.
Ha. Ha. OK. Thank you.
I just don’t want the system to get damaged. It’s a problem here now.
OK. Yes, I know.
Just, I think, half an hour or so it should land, if it does, and then we’ll start seeing what problems we see.
Keep the Livestream open for another half hour.
Yes, I’ll be here until the reactor comes in the ground.
Ha. Ha.
I am, I want to see that.
Who knows? Maybe it’ll go through the floor, who knows.
I want to see that. I can’t, I cannot let that alignment, I’ve been for years looking, waiting for this moment.
Yes, myself as well. I had this vision of counter-rotating magnetic field since I was a very, very young child, and always been interested in magnets and especially in gravity or anti-gravity, what we used to call anti-gravity. As Mr. Keshe says, there is no anti- about it, it’s, you’re altering your position in a positive positioning way using magnetical gravitational fields and so on. But, yeah, I’ve always been totally focused on that in the background of my life, for my whole life, so it’s interesting that… It’s like Erick says, this is essentially the culmination of all of that.
Hey, Rick, can you hear me?
Hi, Brad, yes, loud and clear.
Hello, Brad.
Alright. When, I was thinking, when the fields go in and it turns inside out, the double field pushes in the center, and when it turns inside out it’s literally like turning a torus field flow inside out.
Yes, but the question, perhaps can Rick or Brad help me, the question for Mr. Keshe is: OK. We know that we have to put the strong or the GANS by… For example, CO2 is in the middle, one copper oxide is in the outer place from the reactor. OK. To make to go up we have to pull with the other reactor that is outside, the GANS in the reactor that’s in the place, to pull the GANS that is in the middle from the reactor to outside. So, how is the configuration for the inside-the outside way, the outside reactor to make that, that to change? Do you understand?
Are you telling me about the reactor… Are you talking about the extra reactor that goes on top or bottom, or are you talking about the GANS?
No, no, no, because you have to take the first, the first…
Yeah, I think it depends on what strength GANS you’re using. You have to decrease the Earth’s magnetic field below by putting a reactor there, by blocking it, or putting it on top and reducing it, so it goes up.
Yes, about that… You make that with the outside reactor.
Yeah, you can do that.
Yeah, you can do that. This is the way. This is the way. So, how have to be the configuration inside the reactor, that you, inside the reactor that is outside, that you can take…
That would depend, that would depend on the…
… change the place of the GANS. Change the place for the GANS in the reactor that is in the plate. You have to change this, change the place of the GANS from the middle to outside in the reactor that’s in the star configuration to go up or to go down. So,
Yeah, right, but… Yeah, but it depends on what’s in that extra reactor. Is the field, is the field in those extra reactors stronger or weaker? So, it’s…
Yeah, yeah, that is the question. That is…
But, when you do that, you displace the fields, and it causes a weakness in the direction.
Yes, I know.
So, it depends on what you make it of and then how you put it. You have to… You can’t just say, ‘I have this and I want to do that and that.’
OK. In other way, how do you change, how do you attract the CO2 or attract the copper oxide to change the place inside the reactor in the star formation? How you make that? That is the question.
Rick, can you help me out? I don’t understand what he’s asking.
Are you saying that you want to try to change the concentration of the GANS inside the reactor or the place of the GANS inside the reactor?
The place of the GANS inside the reactor.
Right. I wonder…
You have the stronger or…
If you’ve already created the plasma, why would you want to try to… Is that through the inside-out thing that you are talking about, or what?
Because I think that is the key.
Yeah, but that’s known somewhat, it’s called putting a cup in a cup. It does turn inside out. But, um… The magnetic pressure from the outside GANS pushes the little one in and when it gets to the center it gets strong enough that it pushes back out, and that’s when the whole thing turns inside out. That’s right. It happens.
Can you explain a little bit slowly? I don’t understand so fast.
Oh, it made sense, I liked it fast because I could see it that way, but go ahead, yeah, let’s…
Now I forget what I said, right…
Yeah, it was ‘inspired in the moment’ thing. Basically, he’s talking about the outside field pushing into the inner field which goes towards the middle and then it pushes back out. Right? Yeah, go ahead.
Which is weaker, it’s weaker, but when it gets, yeah, OK, it’s weaker, but when it gets pushed to the center it becomes to a point that’s stronger, and that’s when it pushes out and the whole thing turns inside out.
So, it’s almost, it could be a pulsing mechanism, as well, instead of a, just a bit…
If you model the torus flow when you watch the video of it, and you turn the whole thing inside out, that’s what happened to the fields.
So, OK, but how you make, you make a…
Am I too loud? Oh, sorry. My headphone is a little bit…
It’s OK.
Sorry.
You have to rotate more slowly or more fast the reactor that is outside to make more pressure or less pressure? How you make the pressure? Pardon, Rick.
I’d say that makes sense. Sure.
Yes. You have to… The only way that you can make pressure is by bringing the reactor more in the, more near to the other reactors or rotate more fast or more slowly. You don’t have other ways. Which one is the way? To make more pressure or less pressure? Aha. I have, today, a lot learned, a lot.
You see, you learn a lot in the kids’ workshop, eh?
Yes, for me it’s the best workshop because, yeah, incredible, this is incredible, incredible this. What Mr. Keshe has told us is the most important thing, if I confirm how it works, how it works, that’s incredible. The other thing, from the CO3, CH3 of the Sun, that is better. Ha. Ha. You did understand that if there are… Rick? That concept?
Yeah, that’s a good one, I like the idea.
Yeah. If you have the extra reactor around there, the field flow is going from one to the other, and it depends on which one is stronger, and that’s where you get the puller push, out of the weakness in the field or on the totality of the reactor system in comparison to the Earth.
Basically. In reality, you have the two reactors there. You can see it. The outside reactor’s in there, the wood width Do you see that wood?
The silver one on the right, you mean?
No, I can, I’m on my phone on Skype, I’m staying with some people right now, so I can’t watch the Livestream and talk on Skype.
Aha. OK. Well, the reactor’s in there. This is a concept from Eliya, from the COH3, CH3 from the Sun is a very, very good concept, very. Very good concept. Yeah. It’s incredible, it’s good. I think it’s incredible to see. Oh, good. It’s… I think it’s touching the floor, the linking leg. Or, Rick?
I can’t see it. Last time I looked at it, it was vibrating and moving around. Now I don’t see it.
Yeah, this is perhaps 1 millimeter to the floor, 1 millimeter perhaps. Aha, yes, yes, I know, yes, I know. Yeah. I was thinking, what Mr. Keshe said, yeah, now, what he said from the pressure, now, everything, I understand perfectly now. Perfect.
I’m glad I could help.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. When are these reactors to make light?
That depends on the field strength.
It makes sense to me that they should be able to make light just from 2-3 kinds of GANS mixed in. While it’s rotating, they’re going to have that rubbing or sliding of materials, that was talked about by Keshe.
Yeah, but it’s on some erosion system, you’ve got to figure the magnetical gravitational fields opposite for flight, I mean, for lifting, and this erosion, so …
I mean inside the reactor itself. You might not be, it might be light inside these reactors now. It’s just we can’t see it.
Oh, OK.
If they were ping pong ball reactors, they might glow in the dark because they’re spinning. They can do this.
Yeah, but I mean the outside light.
Oh, aha.
The uffer-light, the omni-light. Because to fly, you have to make the light, or not?
Light might be a sub-effect that occurs. I don’t know if you have to make the light, but it certainly seems to be a side effect.
You usually will create the light around it.
You speak so fast, my friend. Ha. Ha. I don’t understand you.
I’m trying to talk slow actually. Ha. Ha.
Please…
You should hear him when he speaks fast.
But, what about, what about if those spaceships, I mean, what if they create light but they can adjust or adapt to the environment, so that’s why they can make themselves invisible, and you don’t see any light. Is that possible too?
Yes.
Yeah, but they have to spend extra to have that cloaking effect.
That is the…
And that’s only been in the recent budget. In the old days they didn’t have that.
That is the effect for the black holes. It’s there, but you don’t see it.
Yeah, essentially. And, also, they have new materials now that, well, they’re plasmatic materials because they are forms of carbon that are so dark and so black they absorb, you know, 99.9% of light or something like that. So, it’s virtually impossible to see. It just looks as a dark object even in the middle of the daytime. It looks like a shadow. It’s a way of cloaking, you might say.
I’m sure the militaries and countries who follow Keshe are taking in on the material and putting it on stuff. At least, some.
Well, yeah, they’ve been marketing that for quite a while, quite a while. It’s part of the whole thing. It’s also good for things like solar panels and so on, so that’s why they’ve researched that. That’s why I wanted to use carbon on the inside of the ping pong ball reactor. If it was, I reasoned that if it absorbs all light and all magnetic fields inside the reactor, then you should be able to start with nothing. And that is one of the hardest things to start with, is nothing. So, I figured, if you can start with nothing you should be able to get something out of nothing. In other words, if you have avoidance, the universe, the nature abhors a vacuum or it always fills that vacuum with energy. So, if you have blackness on the inside of the sphere that absorbs all energy that’s inside that sphere and it will be constantly absorbing but always refilling it, must refill to fill that vacuum void because there’s always energy in that vacuum, so it should be able to just draw off on the outside of the reactor in some manner, to just continue drawing while it refills itself because it’s empty, because it won’t refill until it’s empty. That’s my idea, anyways. I’m determined to try it.
Sounds complicated, Rick.
Well, it’s easy. You just take maple syrup and carbonize it, put it on the inside of the reactor and wait and see. Sorry, what was that?
Rick, you don’t have to put the carbon. You only have to put CH3, before you make hot the CH3, the CH3 comes total black, and it still is GANS.
Right, that’s an idea.
Yes. You can make the question to Mr. Keshe, or I think that is a way. If you want to have a black GANS, CH3 comes total black with hot, and it still is GANS, because carbon is matter. Oh, this is very, very near to landing.
You know, I wonder what would happen if we used GANS, multi-layering GANS with water and then have a little bit of an air in there, it would vacuum out, left a hole and injected a carbon gas or atomic hydrogen in there to create a gap in the center for free plasma inside that little water, you know, inside the center.
Yeah…
I think…
That kind of thing might create a lot. One problem is you can vacuum out water without, because it creates, it starts boiling…
You leave an air gap in there…
Right.
And use a syringe just to extract whatever you can.
Well, you wouldn’t be able to extract the air without vacuuming it out. That’s the thing. You get to a certain point where it starts to boil, the water, you get water vapor coming out, and it will just keep boiling until all the water is gone, essentially, which is an interesting idea to me. I think it should be done, that’s one thing I want to experiment with, because I can vacuum out my ping pong and put the GANS and vacuum it out, have the GANS as a powder inside that’s free to arrange its own position. All the GANS particles would arrange their own position according to their charge and so on, according to where they wanted to be. So, um, I think that would be a really interesting experiment.
We, maybe we could take some of the… how about this?, that clear jell we make in the containers, it has the air bubbles in it or whatever it is…
Aha.
Use that. It already has air in it.
Yeah. It’s got air in it. If you rotate it, the air will come to the center…
Exactly.
And…
Leaving a void for the free plasma.
Well, it’s not a void, it’s air.
Yeah, I know, but I am just saying, it’s not liquid though.
Unless it’s some other bubbles. If those bubbles are, the bubbles are probably more like the hydrogen bubbles, so in that case it would leave that hydrogen in the center, which is exactly what we want. So, if you can create the hydrogen bubbles… Our friend Dan has developed a process to make micro hydrogen bubbles in his bubbler’s, HHO bubbler arrangement. They’re so micro, they’re like a cloud inside the fluid, so it just, they kind of just hazily float around, they don’t immediately go to the surface like a bigger bubble. So, with that kind of substance that would be charged with the hydrogen, maybe even a mono-atomic hydrogen, and then you rotate it inside the reactor, that hydrogen would tend to want to go toward the center, and it could be the perfect core for the center of the reactor.
Exactly.
And, then you have a nice interface between the liquid and the gaseous, kind of, more or less liquid gaseous is still a GANS and so on, but in terms of chemistry and so on, you always can, all the interesting things happen at the interface between the liquid and the gas. For example, when you create the GANS it forms a fatty layer on the surface between the air and liquid, that’s where all the action is in a way, for creating life and creating new materials and so on, it’s always at the interfaces where things rub, rub together. So, you get that inside a reactor. I think that would be very interesting. The other thing that could be added, I consider, it would be argon CO2, the argon being an inert gas and the CO2 would be used inside a reactor that creates GANS actually. So, that could be a way of doing it, by introducing just the gases you want, like CO2, or other things in the gas that you might want to make with your GANS, create in the GANS. OK, so…
You may be able to make a reactor, fill it with certain water in it and stick the whole thing in the GANS container, and have the GANS grow inside of it while it’s closed.
Aha.
That way it’s completely sealed already. You just have to figure out how much is in there.
We could have some honey-comb arrangement, that when the GANS penetrates it, it gets sealed into place there, in position, so when you stop the reactor, it’s in a fixed, moving-plasma-type situation.
Alright, guys, I got to go, it’s late here. See you on the next workshop. Tell everybody hi, tell everybody bye.
OK, Brad, thanks for checking in. See you later. Ha. Ha.
Brad, are you there?
Yeah? Yeah, I’m here.
Could you contact us tomorrow?
Sure.
Have you arrived safely?
Yeah, we went to Jean Paul’s place, in his lab today, worked with him for a while, and then I’m here, I just arrived at Dan’s about 2 hours ago.
Oh, OK. No problem. Just couple of things I wanted to clear. Oh, no problem, have sweet dreams, yeah. Bye, bye.
You too. Bye.
Bye, bye. It’s vibrating, but it is going nowhere and it’s not landing, so it is absorbing a lot of fields into the reactors. It’s violent. This is very violent.
Moving quite heavily, huh. Now, it’s moving pretty heavily to, you know, left and right, these last seconds. You see, I can’t make it, I have to get up early morning, I cannot make it, I have to go to sleep. So, I guess it’s a matter of minutes or…
Yeah. We’ll see it landing by about 1 o’clock, as I said about a couple of hours ago. It will not happen before then, but it’s a matter of if it’s going to crash or if it’s going to bounce off into a take-off, because at this point you can as much as land as you take off. It depends, if it will turn the system back up, or it will squash the system down to the ground. It’s just waiting and see how it’s going to respond.
Aha.
We just got to wait and see how it happens. I would spend many nights on the chairs, and God knows, tables of the lab, waiting for these kinds of things and they go on for maybe, sometimes, 2-3 days, but this time it’s very effective, very fast, but that’s 13 kilos, you, just moving around like a feather. This is very strange.
Hello, Rick? How are the things going? OK, I haven’t been here for one minute, because my son comes, so… OK. Hello, Rick? I was talking with my son, but I listened a little bit that Mr. Keshe said something. What did he say?
When do you mean? Just now?
Ah, yes, for a while I was talking with my son that came home. I listened that Mr. Keshe came in the audio, he said something, but I don’t understand what he said. Can you tell me what he said, did say?
He said that, he was just, kind of, just watched the platform and that’s it seems to be, it’s still taking time to land and they expect it to be another half hour, somewhere around 1 o’clock Italian time, I believe.
Aha. OK. Well, did…?
Not sure if it’s anything else that you missed.
But, no more explanation or something else, no?
Pardon me, no more?
No more explanations for the system or something?
I’m not sure how long you were gone. You’ll have to go back to the Livestream and see what you missed.
OK, yes, yes, I will, no problem.
We have to be able to end the Livestream, so we can get the video up.
Yeah, yeah, I will, because that is…it’s difficult to say, yeah, it’s OK. Thank you, my friend. This is very nervous, this system. Very nervous. Rick, the CH3 GANS, that is the orange fruit color.
Yeah, I believe so, aha.
What is the blue color?
Um, I think that’s one of the copper oxide.
But, it’s not CH4?
Well, that could be as well. I’m not clear on the…
OK. When are you going to make your system?
I’ve got plates being, that are forming now, and I have to make GANS with them.
Aha.
I’ve had rotating systems for months, but I haven’t been able to get it… I would have done it today, but I’ve been busy.
Ha. Ha. Yes, I know. Very busy.
I would have done a few things today, but I’ve been busy. So, I don’t have time for my own experiments hardly anymore.
I know, my friend. What time is, where you live? What time is there?
Oh, it’s almost 4 o’clock in the afternoon.
The afternoon? Oh, OK. Not too late.
Well, in a way. I have to, I need to rest because I’ve been up since early hours, and last night I was up really late and the, with the plasma reactor group, so I only got a few hours of sleep, and I normally would be sleeping this afternoon. But that’s OK.
OK, we’ll leave it and we’ll see what happens. I’ll be here for a while, to see what happens, to observe. Thank you very much for everything, Rick. See you tomorrow.
I’ll see you tomorrow, Mr. Keshe. I will be here to waiting what’s happened. Ha. Ha.
Ha. Ha. Thank you very much. Bye, bye.
OK. We’ll end the Livestream now then, and people can pick up the ‘Live from SSI’ feed, which is the other, Spaceship Institute site. It’s called livestream.com/SSIworkshops, and you can go to the live from SSI from there. So, it’s just ssiworkshops, with an S on the end. OK. Thanks, everybody, for this much extended kids knowledge seekers workshop. Some very interesting…
I’m back, have a good one.
Ha. Ha.
Thank you very much, Rick. This is, a very, people, there, and a lot of thank yous to Mr. Keshe and congratulations.
Yes, exactly. OK. So ends this 10th Kids Knowledge Seekers Workshop.
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