Arată versiune întreagă : Telescop, binoclu, astronomic !
Puteti incepe foarte usor acest hobby. Nimic nu este mai simplu decat de a ridica privirea sau un binoclu spre cerul instelat. Daca vreti sa transformati aceasta pasiune intr-una de durata atunci va fi nevoie sa va preocupati mai serios de dobandirea unor cunostinte generale si de achizitionarea de instrumente, atlas stelar sau site-urile de specialitate si mai nou cursuri de astronomie si aplicatii mobil foarte utile!
Eu incerc sa cumulez tot ce invat in acest forum Club astronomie Zalmoxa si cine doreste sa mise alature este bine venit.
Telescopul este instrument optic care utilizează fenomenul reflexiei luminii pe o oglindă concavă, folosit în astronomie pentru observarea aștrilor si binoclu este un instrument optic alcătuit din două mici lunete terestre, folosit pentru a privi de la (mare) distanță conform dexonline.
Cum se deosebesc telescoapele, diferente sunt determinate de urmatoarele:
Tipul obiectivului: dintre toate se disting reflectoarele si refractoarele, primele avand obiectivul format dintr-o oglinda iar cele din urma cu obiectivul format din lentile. Acestea la randul lor se diversifica in mai multe sisteme constructive.
Caracteristici optice: in primul rand diametrul obiectivului si distanta focala. Cu cat diametrul obiectivului e mai mare cu atat e mai mare puterea de colectare a luminii. Aceasta caracteristica e mai importanta decat distanta focala care influenteaza doar puterea de marire si raportul focal.
Montura utilizata: se deosebesc monturile astronomice (ecuatoriale sau paralactice) de cele simple si azimutale. Primele se recomanda pentru utilizare in majoritatea cazurilor permitand compensarea miscarii aparente a cerului. Montura azimutala e foarte usor de folosit, montat si transportat si e recomandata copiilor sau observatiilor terestre.
Telescopul este alcatuit din tubul optic ce contine sistemul optic, montura si trepied sau stativ.
Modele de telescopuri;
Principalele modele constructive de refractoare sunt:
Acromat – este modelul clasic cel mai frecvent intalnit. Din nefericire aberatiile cromatice nu sunt complet inlaturate.
Apocromat – construite de obicei din sticla ED obiectivele sunt corectate de majoritatea aberatiilor. Printre acestea apocromatele ptriplet sunt cel mai bine corectate refractoare.
Reflectoarele se impart im mai multe modele principale:
Newton – este modelul clasic cel mai raspandit inca de la inventarea lui. Sistemul format dintr-o oglinda principala si una secundara este unul foarte simplu, ieftin si performant.
Maksutov – Cassegrain – sunt sisteme formate din oglinda principala, oglinda secundara si un menisc ce corecteaza o parte a defectelor optice
Scmidt – Cassegrain – este un sistem identic cu precedentul diferenta fiind data de utilizarea unei lentile corectoare in locul meniscului. confor astroshop
Telescop Acromat
Telescop Apocromat
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Telescop Newton
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Cam asa arata jucaria mea!
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Este un telescop Newtonian marca Optus productie nemteasca. l-am cumparat s.h. cu 50 lei + 24 lei transportul, domnul de la care l-am luat a zis ca este famat si ca nu intelege cum functioneaza bazaconia asta, ca la adus din Germania!
Si am zis asta este, Dumnezeu ma iubeste https://www.craiovaforum.ro/images/smilies/y/77.gif .
Cand am intrat in posesia lui, l-am facut bucati, l-am desfacut din toate incheiturile si am inceput sa curat oglinzile, tubul, lentilele din oculare si sa ajustez pe ici pe pe colo cum am considerat, nu stiu cum am facut asta, dar a iesit bine!
Asa ca, in ce am cheltuit 74 de lei am satisfactia unuia care costa cel putin de 10 ori pretul!
Avand in vedere oceanul in care ma avant, nu imi permit sa cheltui bani nechibzuit, vorba domnului care la vandut, ( nu-i o avere) si de 74 de lei nici nu poti sa te prea îmbeți!
Si cu aceasta (jucarie) am vazut craterele de pe luna cu detalii mai bune, am reusit sa vad Jupiter si satelitii sai, am vazut si liniile detaliate prin culoarea roscovana, am vazut Saturn si inelul sau!
Am vazut si o chestie mare cu aripi, cand piveam la luna cred ca a fost liliac, am incercat eu sa il umaresc dar cum a iesit din lumina selenei sa facut nevazut in noapte!
Pana se va rezolva problema cu postarea de poze ca atas (in memoria interna a forumului S.B.) am sa folosesc pozele altora!
O noua achizitie; Eschenbach Novalux 415
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https://www.astroforum.nl/filedata/fetch?id=1042941&d=1296230986
Pe acesta am dat 150lei + 24 transportul!
Deci, este un refractar acromat cu diametrul lentilei de 60mm si tub focal de 415mm, tubul este metalic, material de calitate, lentile si oculare sticla, pot spune ca este calitate, nu chinezarii cu plastic si care fac poc, nu are trepied, are gentuta cu toate cele, accesorii multiple;
-2 oculare 20mm si 6mm
-1 tub barlow lens x 2
-o prelungire a tubului focal..
-un adaptor pt. aparate foto DSRL, posibil primele concepte pt. astrografie
-oglinda zenitala calitativa, mai am o pocnitoare Celeston din plastic 'si din care iese un chinez si ma injura' si imi e frica de ea..
-inca o chestie geniala, un fel sistem de prisme pentru observația terestră cu corectare de imagine, am zis geniala, pt. ca am facut-o bucati si am gasit acolo, 'niste sticloaie' groase in forme trapezoidale si am privit prin ele si puteam vedea in unghi de 90 pana 180 de grade, genial :).
-filtru pentru luna
- si filtru pentru soare, e aici ma dat gata, am incercat eu taranismele mele cu sticla de la aparatul de sudura pe Newtonianul prezentat in postul anterior si mai sa raman orb, ba nu va jucati cu privitul la soare prin astfel de jucari, dar prin acest filtru am vazut si eu soarele prin telescop, nu am vazut mare lucru pentru ca sunt multe impedimente, dar este un pas inainte :)
I-am luat un trepied pentru aparat de fotografiat care suporta pana 9kg am dat 50lei pe el, nu sunt multumit, pentru ca o data ce dai sa focalizezi din cauza vibratie imaginea se stabileaza pana 5 max 10 secunde, eu vad in acesta ceva inadmisibil tinand cont ca sunt situatii cand privesti si trebuie sa iti ti respiratia ca sa vezi.
Ca o observatie personala pe 14,09,2019 a fost full Mon, Luna plină si le-am pus pe amndoua la intrecere sa vad Luna, Jupiter si pot spune ca Newtonianul îi da 'flit' refractarului acromat, intradevar conteaza apertura care capteaza lumina.
Cam atat deocamdata, ca dorm pe mine!
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Asa arata primul meu telescop, ASTROLOM, pe acesta am dat 100lei, a avut o piesa lipsa si am confectionato eu, piesa lipsa facea legatura intre tub si trepied.... deci, in afara de trepied, totul este SARE IN OCHI, te incanta ca vine cu o cutie tip diplomat unde totate accesorile sunt chitite frumos, aceesorii gramada, dar calitatea lasa de dorit.
Este pentru a satiface curiozitatea si inhiba eventuala pasiune in astronomie.
Eu am avut noroc, primul contact cu astrul celest luna fiind printr-o luneta terestra Auriol care are prisme BK7 si diferenta intre acestea doua privind contrastul si aberatiile optice, este mare!
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Sfatul meu este sa nu stingeti curiozitatea prin 'petarde de telescop astronomic'.
Personal am 4 telescoape, 3 Newtoniene si un refractar, le studiez in limita timpului disponil si imi extrag datele necesare si asta cu, costuri minime!
Am sa revin cu detaliile extrase.
Dupa cum spuneam, am 4 telescopuri astronomice, 3 Newtoniene si reflactar.
In aceasta poza, in camera de la tara, in bulibaseala de acolo am facut o improvizatie.
Mai exact am doua Newtoniene Optus si un National Geografic, trepiedele de la Optus sunt model vechi, din lemn, se regleaza dificil, sunt grele si urate si am hotarat sa iau trepiedul de National Geografic care este din aluminiu, se regleaza mult mai bine decat cele din lemn, este mult mai usor si este mai estetic.
Dar ca sa fac asta, trebuie fac cateva ajustari la suporti tubului telescop.
De ce nu le-am lasat asa?!
Pentru ca contrastul imagini de la Optus este superior telescopului Nationa Geografic.
Probabil ca un cunoscator va zice ca de ce nu am schimbat doar oglinzile pentru ca, cotele nu ma impiedicau si a trebuit sa garuesc tubul?!
Pentru ca Optus-ul nemtesc nu are plastic, nemti nu fac rabat de la calitate, exceptand trepiedul care la acea vreme era aferent, dar astazi poate fi depasit dar nu si optica.
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Aici sunt piese gen balama care ajuta tubul telescopului sa stea si sa regleze pe trepied.
In stanga este piesa de la telescopul N.G. care va inlocuita piesa din dreapta de Optus.
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Aici am prezenta un cadru cu oglizile, in stanga este oglinda N.G si in drepta oglinda Optus.
Ca o observatie personala as numara 2-3 diferente in rest nimic deosebit....
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Acum o luna livrez unui domn un binoclu maritim la un pret deloc mic si ca un pacatos intreb si eu, de ce, pentru ce, ca si eu.... si detaliez noua mea pasiune cu observatile personale in urma studiului personal si domnul respectiv mi-a spus ca sticla de la telescopul Optus este Zeiss si ca este un secret de fabricatie german, care nu a fost dezvalui si nu ar putea fi comparat in calitate cu altele din acest aspect!
O alta jucarie pe care am gasit-o in pachetul telescopului Optus, a fost un dispozitiv electronic care ajuta la focalizare direct din telecomanda.
Personal o consider frectie la picior de lemn, daca in observatia personala pentru a putea vedea un corp celest este nevoie de clipe in care sa nu respiri, nu inteleg rostul motorasului care nu poate inlocui precizia focalizari cu mana!
Cand am inceput sa o ispectez am constatat cu sutupoare ca neamtul a uitat bateriile in telecomanda si bateriile s-au scurs si a corodat piesele din interiorul telecomenzi, nu a fost afectate decat piesele din sistemul de alimentare, placa electronica cu butoanele de comanda au necesitat doar curatire si lipire a firelor.
Dupa ce l-am curatat fost o provocare si am rezolvat-o in seara asta, dupa cum am nimerit.
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